Grenade Damage in the pre-sequel

I recall grenade damage increasing the damage of certain torgue weapons in BL2, some of them didn’t even have to be legendary. In fact i was working on a Axl build around this. I was putting points in Jacks’s just compensation when I began to wonder if his abilities worked like Axls.

My search-fu is horrible, I cannot find any threads pertaining to my question of:

Does grenade damage effect certain weapons like it did in BL2?

Edit 1: I will try and compile a list and edit it when people point out stuff that is added. The list appears much smaller than BL2.

Assault Rifles:
Non-red text Torgue Assault rifles(Non-torgue Barrel)

Pistols:
Non-red text Torgue Pistols
Basic maliwan Pistols

Snipers:
NONE

SMGs:
NONE

Shotguns:
Non-red text torgue

Rockets:
NONE

Grenades:
ALL

General:
Non-rocket Tediore reloads

Shields:
NONE

The list seems a lot smaller than BL2, that is for sure. If anyone has any info on whether certain legendaries like the 88 fragnum works with it or not please let me know.

Grenade damage boost tediore reloads and all weapon splash damage (tongue guns and some maliwan guns)

Not all splash gets grenade buffs

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That’s news to me, which ones don’t get the buff?

There were a bunch of bl2 threads that covered it, none yet for tps but much remains the same.

I think if a gun is “pure” splash (EG a rocket) it doesn’t get the buff, while things that have a projectile that causes an additional explosion do get buffs.

So Torgue guns that shoot gyro jets and Maliwan pistols/snipers will work. But Rockets and grenadiers won’t.

There are exceptions though.

It wasn’t that simple, flakker did not get them, neither did maliwan snipers that I remember and red text were very hit or miss.

From Axl’s grenade damage resource guide

Assault Rifles:
Kerblaster(child grenade only)
Ogre
Non-red text Torgue Assault rifles(Non-torgue Barrel)
Hail
Evil Smasher

Pistols:
Thunderball fists(Main projectile only)
Non-red text Torgue Pistols
Unkempt Harold
Hornet
Grog Nozzle
Rubi
Teapot
Infection
Pocket Rocket
Basic maliwan Pistols
Tinderbox
Devastator

Snipers:
*none
After patch, Volcano
After patch, Storm

SMGs:
Avenger full throw
Non-Bandit Plasma Casters
Florentine
Hellfire
Yellow jacket

Shotguns:
Deliverance full throw
Teeth of Terra
Retcher
Omen
Blockhead
Swordsplosion
Twister
Non-red text torgue

Rockets:
Bunny full throw

Grenades:
ALL

General:
Non-rocket Tediore reloads
Buzz Axe bombardier

Shields:
Love Thumper nova
The cradle

I split these in two so we know what works and what doesn’t.

What doesn’t get the grenade damage bonus
Assault Rifles:
Seraphim
Kerblaster main projectile
Bearcat
Boom Puppy
Torgue Barrel Assault Rifles
Seeker
Stinkpot
Sawbar

Pistols:
Spikers
Darts
Little Evie
Wanderlust
Dahlminator
Stalker

Snipers:
ALL OF THEM

Rockets:
ALL OF THEM

Shotguns:
Flakker
Octo
Tidal wave
Slow hand
Carnage
Splatguns(all)
Landscaper

SMGs
Basic Maliwan SMGs
bandit plasma casters.
Chuliann
Sandhawk

Grenades:
NONE.

General:
Tediore rocket throws

Shields:
Death Blossom

Now I’ve bolded on what I’ve seen in the pre-sequel. Now it may depend, but it looks like vanilla torgue stuff would be effective with the grenade damage than the red named, so in other words my jack would have to find a nice green/blue/purple torgue shotgun to get the most out of his skill that punmps up grenade damage, and have to give up that awesome torgue shotgun I’ve been using that shoots 3 rounds in a triangle.

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Basic maliwan smgs don’t have splash

that s under the list of what doesn’t work with grenade damage.

Its a list of guns with splash damage, maliwan smgs don’t have any splash damage so it shouldn’t be on the list at all was my point.

Also the octo doesn’t have splash unless you are talking reload.

Maliwan snipers also have splash damage.

Those are on the list but they don’t get grenade buffs to it

The reason those got on there were because people asked for me to test them.
Only reason, when someone saw a larger bullet they assumed it had splash.