Good Skill Build? Gear Updated

The1and500 · July 14, 2015, 6:26pm

I have an OP7 siren, so I’m just trying out different skill combos for fun. Is this a good one? (Explain why/why not)
Gear:
OP8 Bitch/ Sandhawk
OP8 Orge/Razrez Lyuda
OP8 Heart Breaker/Grog Nozzle
OP8 Fast Actions/Northfleet
OP8 93% Sham/ Bee (Immune to electricity)/ Black hole (just to sponge damage really)
OP8 Storm shock Front
OP8 Legendary Cat Mod
OP8 Blood (Max health + Smg and Launcher ammo max increase)/ Heart (Smg damage and FFYL)/
I also have a butcher, Conference call, Harold, and a bearcat on me.

ACNAero · July 14, 2015, 6:33pm

Swap out Helios and Cloud Kill for Chain Reaction. Chain Reaction is one of her big damage increase skills, while Helios is only good for Grog/Life Tap healing, and Cloud Kill is so bad, the old forums had a parody thread about it. Past that, it’s solid. Maybe try to get Inertia for fighting DoTs.

The1and500 · July 14, 2015, 6:36pm

True, but It gets +5 when I have the Legendary Binder Class Mod on, so that’s +9 instead of just +5

ACNAero · July 14, 2015, 6:38pm

There’s nothing wrong with putting 5/5 in Chain Reaction then taking a point out of Flicker and putting it in Helios. It will be +6 then.

The1and500 · July 14, 2015, 6:39pm

True, I didn’t think of that, thanks.

Derch · July 14, 2015, 6:46pm

I would also do 9 in minds eye and 5 . Same with accelerate and ward. Or you could do 6 in accel, 4 in ward and 4 in inertia.

Poisd2Strike · July 14, 2015, 6:50pm

Helios is almost completely useless in UVHM. Even when I use the Legendary Binder, I don’t bother putting a single point in Helios. Like @ACNAero said those points are better spent in Chain Reaction. In addition to removing Cloud Kill, you should probably consider removing Thought Lock. Unless you are using a Rough Rider / Flame of the Firehawk, Inertia is basically a must have especially in UVHM and the OP levels. If you do choose to take two Capstones, Scorn is a better choice than Thought Lock and can be thrown in FFYL.

The1and500 · July 14, 2015, 6:51pm

Well, ward is only good for the recharge rate, and I have A 94% sham with a 1.8 delay

The1and500 · July 14, 2015, 6:53pm

Well said, I’m just trying things out really

Poisd2Strike · July 14, 2015, 7:01pm

You will notice more of a recharge delay benefit from Ward while using a shield like The Bee, which has a very long delay to begin with, than The Sham which has a very low recharge delay. Inertia can also help substantially to override the long recharge delay of The Bee. However, the capacity benefit from Ward to both of those shields will be very noticeable. If you have Thought Lock and Ruin your Though Locked target should at least theoretically get Slagged, which means it won’t survive very long in UVHM. That means it won’t last long as a distraction.

EDIT: Also noticed the 5 points in Sub-sequence which probably isn’t a good idea if you take Thought Lock, since you want the Thought Locked target to live as long as possible to get the most benefit.

Derch · July 14, 2015, 7:01pm

That’s not true, the capacity is wasted on high capacity shields but shields like the sham and the bee have terrible capacity and love ward.

Also this is why you should list your gear with your build.

ACNAero · July 14, 2015, 7:02pm

Thoughtlock is a skill that you either love or hate. If you love it, go with it.

The1and500 · July 14, 2015, 7:05pm

Very True, But I’m gonna respec when I do raid bosses. Since i have the cat, bee, and the sandhawk

The1and500 · July 14, 2015, 7:14pm

I’ll upload another picture then, thanks. Even though I dont have the best gear since they’re all OP8, and I’m OP7

Derch · July 14, 2015, 7:22pm

You could just type them out quick, no need for a pic.

The1and500 · July 14, 2015, 7:26pm

My bad.
OP6 good touch
OP3 Infinity
OP6 Carnage
OP6 Nukem
61 Sham (94%)
OP4 Legendary Cat
OP4 Bone (Smg damage + FFYL)
OP4 Bonus Package

Derch · July 14, 2015, 7:49pm

Hows that gear holding up for you?

Your sham has to be made out of paper at this point. I would replace it with almost any at level shield by now.

OP3 infinity also has to be getting weak, try just looking for an anarchist at your level.

The carnage is also poor on Maya because it does not get buffs by reaper or chain reaction. Just look for a ravager, much better shotgun for Maya.

Also that isn’t a bone for your relic, bones five elemental bonus and cool down

If you have a cat com I would look for more smgs, plasma casters, helfire, lascaux, many easy to get and powerful smgs.

The1and500 · July 14, 2015, 8:43pm

My bad, heart. and I already have really good gear, but they’re all OP8, so I’m just using that to get by rn.

Carlton_Slayer · July 14, 2015, 8:54pm

As far as a general mobbing build it might work but you definitely need at level gear- your Cat com should still be good (what’s the SMG % damage on it BTW?) but Blood of the Ancients might be better if you’re going mainly elemental weapons (and drop Cloud Kill- past normal it’s a waste of a point). My suggestion- this: http://bl2skills.com/siren.html#535001354052053000005550500501
On the rare occasion you aren’t using SMG’s a L. Binder will work with this build as well- of course, this will somewhat depend on what other weapons you’re using…

The1and500 · July 14, 2015, 8:59pm

the gun damage is 116%, but my OP8 one is 128%