Entering FFYL removes killskills?

[Feculator]

Am I seeing this right? Is this on purpose? Who thought this was a good idea?

PS: If anyone knows a good weapon for getting second winds on Zane on mayhem 10, let me know. I’m currently using a plaguebearer but it’s not particularly impressive.

[adrunkenmess1 (GT Adrunkenmess1)]

Backburner, hellwalker, plasma coil

Preferably with the 150 U-Rad anointment since it’ll be giving you extra damage when in FFYL always.

[jacobcaudill1 (Peachy)]

yeah killskills have always been removed upon FFYL entry. It is a staple mechanic and I am glad it made it back into BL3 personally. It rewards staying alive and punishes those who go down! Also back burner is a good FFYL weapon…

[Feculator]

Getting a timer and barely being able to move is punishment enough for me, personally, especially when playing a character whose almost entire power comes from killskills.
I go from oneshotting stuff with an Unforgiven to barely even doing a pixel of damage with a headshot.

[Hexxusz0r (Resident inZane)]

This battle is lost

Fight for your life and zane pinned thread?

It’s only with Seein Dead that FFYL isn’t an issue damage wise on Zane. Without Seein Dead the damage is ridiculously bad in FFYL. Zane’s damage comes almost all from kill skills and movement speed both of which you lose in FFYL unless of course youre using the bandwagon mod.