Initial impression of Iron Cub in an actual gameplay

Borderlands 3 Moze the Gunner
#1

I wanna list some of the things I noticed while playing Iron Cub in M11 Athenas:

My gear:

  • X2 Beacon
  • low level Sellout
  • +5 SSB Flare
  • 150% ASA CMT
  • Stop Gap
  • Pearl
  • X2 Kybs Worth
  • x3 Flakker

My observations:

  • Iron Cub does PATHETIC damage. You would think they would have Mayhem Scaling included but NO. Iron Cub barely tickles a normal Maliwan soldier
  • Moze easily destroys everything but not sure if this is because of the Beacon or just her Skag/Short Fuse combo
  • The cooldown on Iron Cub is loooooongggg. You better keep Iron Cub duration running. So after IC is dead, that’s the only time the cooldown will start counting. So I guess this is where Eternal Flame com sits in
  • The buffed Flakker is strong. It clears all mobs. Not sure if this is Moze, the weapon, or 4th skill tree. It’s like Plagubearer but faster
  • The new skin is nice
  • Sellout allows Moze to activate her 4th skill tree skills

I havent tried Arms Race btw

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#2

Yeah, IC is horrible. I’m pretty sure it’s because of Mayhem Scaling, it’s gonna be fixed.

#3

Yeah but that’s really a surprise because of the streamers have reported that already. Isn’t that one of the purposes of early access for these streamers? I mean they mentioned that-- they are not only playing to demo but also to repoet issues.

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#4

Am I disappointed? Sadly, yes. Am I surprised? Even more sadly, no.

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#5

I’m trying to think of an optimal shield anoint for IC. The ASE’s dont work anymore or can only be activated once.

#6

Yea it kinda makes no sense that they didn’t buff iron cub after every streamer said it was way too low

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#7

Also if they didn’t fix that then I bet iron cub still actually doesn’t receive damage biost from iron bear boosters and jusy acts as auto bear 2.0 but weaker

#8

CC having early access was a marketing ploy; it’s not the first time that early access-er provided feedback about the game that went ultimately not cared about.

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#9

By the way if you go FFYL, you lose the Harmonius Havoc (the 10% per matching element item bonus). You need to switch to another gun to reactivate it.

  • V-35 augment (the one with singularity) is fun with IC.

  • 150% ASA grenades doesn’t look that great in practice, specially with CMT

  • Grenades with While Iron Bear is active, taking dmg has 20% chance to spawn grenade works great. The Epicenter and Firestorm are annoying though because it can easily kill you specially when IC keeps running around

  • IC gets stuck on an enemy. If you are on M11, he is basically stucked trying to kill that enemy. So let’s say you move to 3 blocks away, he will still engage the first enemy he met. We need an attack or follow command

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#10

Does less damage sure but lasts 8-10 times as long, is mobile, doesn’t require going halfway down a tree and spending a skill point to get, has Moze dmg boosting abilities and allows Moze to use some of the most powerful anoints in the game. Doesn’t seem like a totally unfair tradeoff imho

#11

It can last forever but if does not do damage is useless. The bearcat can last forever, but would you use it?

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#12

That’s ok if that’s intentional. But IC can barely scratch a Maliwan soldier in M11. So let’s say Iron Bear can insta kill a soldier, I’d expect IC to do at least 20% damage.

Edit: Also since he can’t kill anything, he gets stuck on a loop killing the first thing he sees. You gotta help him kill or you’ll be alone fighting.

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#13

The damage boosting skills for moze in that tree aren’t as good as you think btw it’s still not as strong as any of her current trees btw

#14

Apologies in advance for the dumb question, but Does Moze receive the Flare damage bonus while IC is out?

#15

From my test, yes.

#16

I would never even pick up let alone use a Bearcat. I won’t get to fully test out IC until later tonight so havent had much hands on yet, but im less concerned with lack of dmg since I never use Iron Bear offensively now. So basically any dmg is more than 0 which is what im getting from IB currently. I plan on using cub only to support Moze and seems like it can fill that role pretty well just based on first impression.

#17

Well for support in mobbing, I found him useful with proccing V-35 singularity and quasar with singularity grenades for crowd control.

Now if he can only deal some damage would be sweeter.

#18

Any post with “playing Mayhem 11” in it is a no go for me now. I’ll have the Cub in about 5 hours and we’ll see what premature judgement achieves.

is Cub being utilized properly or being thrown against situations as a solution when there may be a few nuances

Way too early for judgement yo

Seriously? The Cub just released.

#19

The bug where IC doesn’t get Mayhem Scaling appears to not have been fixed.

#20

Known bug from the early access builds that the Streamers got to show off.