Arms Race discussion

so what concerns me here is
“no skills at all”
every VH will be the same? no action skills, no synergies between skills and gear?
sounds a bit lame in the long run
like, its cool to use green and blue gear
but what do i care what i find if my character is just a bland fortnite character?

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I was about to make one but you already did :smiley:

I have the same question. The only difference is what? The VH model?

Pros:

  • I am on the same field as with cheaters and modders because they can’t bring their guns
  • Every gear matters (well that’s because you got NO CHOICE lol)
  • New loot

Cons:

  • My long hours of gameplay are worthless because of no Guardian Ranks
  • No Skills

No wonder they disabled mods on M11. Imagine running M10 without your VH skills.

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me fast :3

the only con for me is just: every VH will be a basic soldier
why should i be happy about finding a splash gun if my moze doesnt even have any skills benefiting from it?

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In theory shouldn’t Moze rule this mode because by default she is the GUNNER class?

Flak can’t use pets
Amara can melee but she needs a melee gun
Zane probably second best?

Yep good point.

And you can only make this gun useful in the main content. But why? We’ve killed main content a gazillion times already

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yea
its just not fun to find specific gear when the gear is again only about damage numbers because you character doesnt have any direction

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Director’s Cut will enable VH skills :rofl:

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I’m kinda disappointed that skills are out of the window. Thats kinda stupid. What sounds immensely more frustrating though, is the damn thing will have a time limit. I friggin HATE time limits. Especially in a game of exploration and looting. Like…WTF?

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what? i missed that
no way
that ruins everything

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I was hoping I can showcase the 4th skill tree in Arms Race mode but it turns out it’s only usable in the main content. BUT WHY!

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Yes… a storm is blowing in and it forces you to move from place to place and finally the end. Time limit is 23-25 min according to the Dev.

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What no skills, period?

I like the idea of a back to basics gauntlet, but what distinguishes Borderlands from other similar games are the crazy things you can do with skills.

Is this a round about solution to the out of control overinflated Mayhem scaling of action skill damage?

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Not sure no skill trees means no action skills, but if it does, that’s fine for what they want this mode to be.

It basically eliminates the need to complain about about skill bugs etc. Now you just have to play the game as best you can and get rewarded with loot for your efforts.

They mentioned the scaling is custom for the mode, inclusive of Mayhem, to accommodate for the lack of skills and guardian rank. So they seem to have really focused on balancing.

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The Dev specified no action skills, no skills from trees, no pets, guardian ranks…no nothing. Just you and the guns you find

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Bizarre.

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what cocnerns me is that this game has no core lol difference between holding regular gun and holding a buffed leggendary will be ~300 500% lol if you find any decent gun by chance it will be piss. completely don get this mode no skills available? dude what game is this

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Plus side is return of Axton and Salvador…kinda

They narrate the mode

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As promised, it’s a NEW GAME lol

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oh yeah man fantastic with all the arcade movement system in place it is bound to be delight

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That the price point for the pass is $30 makes it a little more interesting to me.

Arms Race feels Like Digistruct peak on a level playing field as far as loadouts. It removed the RPG element from the game. But it lets you take the loot and levels back into the game.

It’s essentially a way to level boost characters without being bothered with the campaign.

If they let you skip finishing NVHM if you level cap a character in Arms Race, that would be nice.

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