So I’ve recently gotten back into Borderlands GOTY classic and I’ve put in a hefty 400+ hours in the past couple of months.
From Armory Lance Chests, normally, I’d get 15 legendaries on average. 20 on the high end, 10 on the very lowest end. And, I’d get a Pearl every 2-3 hours on average. I’d get about 6-8 legendaries from Craw on average.
However, within the past week or so, I’ve been getting HORRENDOUS drops from Craw and the Armory. I am talking 2-5 legendaries from Armory, all with typically bad parts. And 1-5 legendaries from Craw. And in 50 hours, 4 Undertakers and 1 Mega Canon (outlier for sure). I’ve spoken to one of my viewers who plays classic, and they didn’t specifically notice this when farming, but upon testing the Armory and Craw, they are similarly getting inexcusably bad drop rates.
Now, the other people who I’ve spoken with are all playing remastered, and up until late last night, their drop rates were fine. Upon observation, it appears a silent update dropped about 8 days ago for classic. A similiar quiet update hit Enhanced/Remastered last night. After the update, 2 of my viewers on Remastered were experiencing the same kind of bad loot, at least from the Armory (not much testing done on Craw).
So, I ask, anyone who can look at the games code, could you see if the Awesome Level of the Lance Chests and Craw have been changed? Or are we just dummi thicc and stupid??
Thanks
EDIT: Checked my local files and nothing has been modified since I downloaded the game. Steam downloaded an update in relation to the games, but I think if it affected normal play it would show up in the local files?? Maybe we’ve just had coincidentally mutual terrible luck at just the right time but that seemed unlikely to me lol
I’m in the middle of the Knoxx DLC myself, so I haven’t gotten to the Armory yet.
But everything else in BL1 Remaster seems to be what I expect. The Hyperion Gift Shop in the Robot Rev. DLC, for example, is spitting out legendaries at the rate it always has (since the remaster, of course).
Should be at the armory either this evening or tomorrow, I’ll let you know what I find.
BTW, are you in playthrough 1 or 2? I’m in PT2.5 currently.
Howdy, PT 2.5 with the Knoxx DLC completed, providing max scaled weapons on Super Marcus Sweep (now it’s like christmas as I progressed to try to fix my drops)
Just finished the first pass of the Armory, at level 56 end of DLC mission.
Legendary drop rate seemed normal to me. Didn’t pick up any pearls, but then again I never get pearls, from he armory or Craw, my luck is terrible in pearl farming.
I’m going to level this character up to 69 then go back, so it’ll be a little while. But seems normal to me at first blush.
I play on console so have never taken a look at the internal files. Even if I was on a desktop, it would take quite a while to figure out where the “awesome” flag is from a standing start. It would also violate the terms of this forum to talk about data-mined knowledge.
How did you notice an update anyway? I didn’t notice any change on PS4 or Xbox.
Oop I did not see that in the rules. There is a pinned thread which discusses and confirms the Awesome Level of most chests in the game, which has been up for a very long time, so I would assume there wouldn’t be a problem looking at the data again. There are quite a few people on here who are not at a standing start and are aware of how to observe the AL as far as I know.
I noticed my GOTY classic had a download in process when I tabbed out of my game a bit after 12am, and then one of my viewers mentioned that they had received a small download for GOTY Remastered on console (switch). Nothing official.
But, alas, the game files have not been modified, and GOTY Classic is not shift enabled and is not able to be hotfixed (as far as I know), so it would appear that at this time, this was just a long streak of bad luck for a few people and I might’ve jumped to some conclusions too quick without significant evidence P:
It’s still weird to me that my viewer got 3.5~ legendaries average per craw kill over 40 kills (large scale average is 6.5), and that I had a running average of 3 legendaries per armory sweep over like 10 hours, but I just have to conclude it was bad luck at this point, as neither of those are big sample sizes and there’s no evidence of any changes being made to the game.
Im level 61 recently played tps having never played bl before and enjoyed it so much that i bought every bl game and started working through them with bl1 as i said im now level 61 and have run the armory a few times, loot is only dropping at level 30 and on my best run i got 2 legendarys and overall no pearls, even purples are uncommon which from what ive heard is not how it should be… im not sure why its happening or why loot is only dropping at around level 30, if anyone can help or point out a mistake i might be making because im new to the borderlands series then i would appreciate that, however im not sure why im getting such horrible loot… (also im aware that im 2 years late to this but im struggling to find anything else on this topic and im guessing not many ppl are still playing bl1)
I can’t find the source for this but I recall that, after my own futile attempts, that Pearls can only spawn at a minimum level of 48.
Are you playing in Playthrough 1? If so the loot of the armory would probably be so low because of that. Hence no Pearls.
I’m no expert on this because I never done the farm myself, maybe someone else could chime in here?
Otherwise maybe try doing the Knoxx DLC in Playthrough 2 so the level is higher.
Another possibility would be trying to farm Crawmerax, as he is atleast level 61 even on PT.1
Although that might take way more time idk, I never got one from him even after dozen of kills.
I think PT.1 can also level with you after you reach lv. 50/and or beat the Destroyer in PT.2 but I think the Armory would probably still be locked at the quest level?
Weapon and item scaling is a bit wonky in the beginning , you can get a level 2 shield as a reward for a level 13 mission, so no surprises there in BL1. The cherry is at the end game. Search this forum for info about Play Through 2.5
Definitely feels nerfed to me, a particular telling point is the item drops; for the class mods, I’m rarely getting 5 liner mods let alone one with optimum stats, regarding shields I haven’t come across any 3000+ capacity ones yet admittedly those would be close to perfect parts but the drops I have seen don’t even come close middling around the 2200-2400. The best one I’m rocking with is about 2700 with a fast recharge of around 440.
Perhaps I need to complete the main story playthrough 2 , but the knoxx DLC is on 2.5 and they should be independent of each other. I’ve seen suggestion that it could be the gearbox legendaries are skewing the drops which I think is plausible particularly if there is some sort of “point” or “weighting” system on maximum drops Crawmerax can drop in one run. It’s interesting to note the gearbox legendaries drop at max level 69 where as all other weapons are still capped as they have always been at level 68 - which I find somewhat counterintuitive and perverse.
The character I am working on is Lilith Level 69, has all 72 backpack spaces unlocked and been farming Crawmerax religiously working on my weapon proficiencies most are now maxed except for rockets/eridian (over halfway for these two) and Shotgun. And I always use Catalyst with the +2 rare item find.
I have so far come across two pearls from Craw (whilst levelling up so they aren’t even top level range) 1 Stalker and 1 Bessie but it did make a change the first Pearls for a character I usually get is an Ironclad shield. When doing Knoxx runs on playthrough 1 I found the loot so bad I ended up doing most of my farming for Legendaries at Tarturus station before taking on Craw.