ECHO-2 Mythbusting

Borderlands 3 Borderlands 3 General Discussion
#1

There are quite a few rumors about the special effects of the ECHO-2 grenade, and I wanted to find out if they were true or not.

The attempted tests were:

  • Does the grenade damage of the ECHO-2 increase if you don’t look at the explosion?

  • Does aiming at the ECHO-2 grenade change its behaviour in some way (decreasing damage and/or radius, increasing fuse time etc.)?

Tl;dw: it doesn’t look like that at all. I hope that less people will now refrain from using it because of its (inexistent) impractical gimmick.

If you have any information (even discordant to this, of course) regarding the ECHO-2 and its special effects, feel free to post it here!

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#2

Welcome to hell - if it doesn’t carry someone through the True Maliwan Takedown at MM10, it’s “not viable”. :laughing:

Seriously though, I appreciate this… testing like this was in my queue, but low in a long list. The non-explosive, non-impact trigger makes it rough to use… like I might take a rubberized version over a lobbed if it was available. I’ve found some with elements and anointments, and I really want to use it but… lobbed. :dukepuke:

If you have a niche, no matter how small, where this grenade shines, do tell.

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#3

I already did this kind of test however my conclusion was a bit different: it is impossible not to look at the grenade ( I thought the condition is do not look the grenade) except if you throw it indirectly via drone or revengenader which I have yet to do.

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#4

Did you get different results? I just happen to have an Echo-2 grenade in Zane’s pocket as I type this… gonna be tricky to get one of those grenades to actually hit something though.

edit - SNTNL can’t hit a thing with this grenade. :laughing:

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#5

What I mean is the condition I heard of is do not look at the grenade which you cant fullfill if you throw it directly.
With drone and Loco Chantelle :rofl: it should be possible
I ll do the test right now

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#7

nope I was hopeful but this property does not seem to work even not looking at the grenade at all, I did long hide and seek party with Coco used drone and revengenader and it does the same damage every time. That s a letdown I was hoping the grenade would do insane damage if you fullfilled this riduculous condition

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#8

Yeah, for what appears to be a hard-coded lobbed delivery on top of a theoretical, ‘can’t look at grenade for more damage’ mechanic, I was hoping the return would be huge too. I mean, it’s not like the damage is negligible (I did kill a few Skags with it), but it’s not that fun.

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#9

This grenade is only an Easter Egg to the begining of the game and exploding phone bateries.
Doesn’t have any hidden gimmics.

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#10

Yeah, I’m familiar with similiar statements :sweat_smile:
In a game with ~400+ red text items, I just wish people would try and give a shot to as many as possible, not just the meta ones, if nothing else for the novelty.

Regarding the ECHO-2 in particular, I found the concept and the call-back to be genius, but yeah, there really isn’t a specific reason to use it unless you make a point to.

It recently came to my mind only because I got one on a low level character from the Mouthpiece story kill, and I gladly used it for a while.

Oh that’s unfortunate, but still, that was a warranted suspicion, so thank you very much for testing it out!

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