So, now we can talk about the mayhem modifiers

easy
big kick energy: gun damage +25%, recoil, spread +100%
more than ok boomer: grenade damage +25%, enemies drop grenade ammo that can be active?
galaxy brain: big head mode
slayer: non boss enemies below 15% bars, will explode and drop boosters
lootsplosion: killing an enemies has a 10% chance to trigger a lootsplosion

medium
mob mentality: enemy damage and fire rate +30% near other enemies
freeze tag: enemies drop a cryo nova orb at death
pain tolerance: enemies gain adaptive resistance with 20 stacks
speed demon: after killing, movement speed is increased by 50% for 10 seconds, stacks 3 times
floor is lava: the floor is lava
healy avenger: enemies that die can drop a power up that heals an enemy or drops boosters
chilling them softly: enemies can be cryo immune + nova when killed
high voltage: enemies can be shock immune + nova when killed
totally radical: enemies can be radiation immune + nova when killed
charred mode: enemies can be fire immune + nova when killed
acid reign: enemies can be corrosive immune + nova when killed

hard
chain gang: close enemies are attached by a damaging elemental beam
laser fare: enemies can drop a rotating laser trap when damaged
pool party: enemies drop elemental pools when armor, shield or health is down
ticked off: enemies gain 90% elemental resistance
drone ranger: enemies can spawn with a healing drone
boundary issues: close enemies will attack a damaging beam to you

very hard
holy crit: crit damage +25%, non crit damage -50%
dazed and infused: enemies can be infused to be immune to an element and release novas
rogue life: no more FFYL, all enemies drop full hp charges on death
buddy system: enemies can be supported by an invulnerability drone
post mortem: killing enemies can release death, when death touches you, instant FFYL
not in the face: crit damage is reduced by 75%

that are over 25 and tbh, i hate most of them
immunities, totally killing some builds and weapons, crit camage modification throws off balance, close enemies lasers killing melee builds, insta death might be interesting for hardcore players

so lets try to find a good combination that every build and character could live with

easy: obviously lootsplosion
medium: mob mentality
hard: drone ranger
very hard: buddy system

but still, please make them optional!^^
they are terrible

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that needs to be a -50%

very weird modifier - makes bosses with easy crit spots trivial

thank you

I opened the game, read the modifiers and closed the game. They really don’t know how to make game harder without making it not fun.

They also nerfed xp gain dramatically.

I guess I’m gonna search for a new game to play.

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Cya! Meanwhile bois are already equipped with m10 gear… Its time to slass!

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can you pick? or do you get random modifiers?

hope we can pick… otherwise we’ll be back to square one -> reset untill desired combo…

though most sound more like an anoyance then a difficulty…

You can reroll them

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They’re random. You need to quit the game and start a new one to get different ones.

Noooo

i just rerolled like 50 times to get a decend combination
its horrible

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Ahhh, thanks. I didn’t even notice the Reroll option.

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like i feared… it’s worse then the point they decided to make M4…

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So is the M4 xp gain the same as M10 or did they nerf the one on M4?

I really don’t get why they do this, like you are taking way longer to kill things = less xp. Why would I want this when I could kill the same boss dozens of times in the same time it would take me to beat him once on M10.

This also wields more chances for boss specific loot vs just once…

I really don’t get why they leave xp and money out, it was already weird that the money gain on M4 is less than on M3.

That is terrible we can’t pick. There are a lot of terrible options in there. Most of them are things I don’t even want to play with.

BTW has anyone figured how how MP works in terms of these modifiers? Does the host control because that will suck.

not realy feeling the new modifiers…

most of them are just… boring…

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I don’t there’s a single one here that wouldn’t be entertaining in combat for me. If I want a break from the insanity, I can go to MM0 and coast with Lootsplosion or something. Post Mortem looks especially fun.

if the enemy health values at MM10 aren’t uncomfortably high, this is a total win for me. Will find out when the download is done.

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rogue life sounds awesome. mob mentality is good aswell. i can life with drone ranger. Don’t like the rest.

Wish i could simply have rogue life and enemys deal more damage and take more damage.
Basically i want BL 2 UVHM with rogue life and without mob health regen.

This sounds actually good for me. I don’t want to be max level that fast.

Anyone know which bosses drop the new legendary items that you can only get at MH level 6 or higher?

Also, does anyone know if the previous items that only dropped at MH 4 (e.g, Zheitsev’s Eruption, Spiritual Driver) will now drop at MH 1, 2, etc. or are they still MH 4 or higher only?

probably world drops for now (increased rate in the event level)

speculation though :wink: don’t take my work on it :wink:

I hesitate to complain as I appreciate the fact they’ve clearly put a lot of thought into it, but I just wish they understood some players just want a greater degree of difficulty without wanting gimmicks. So maybe enemies with better ai, maybe more bigger and tougher enemies, but all this carnival stuff is something I find hard to warm up to.

I think I’ll just have to give it some time…

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