Build for iron bear moze -NIPPL_SALADS

Hope u will enjoy this iron bear build kiddos.

 SKILL TREES

if you see some points are missing it’s because i dont have anymore (obviously)((?))
DEMOLITION WOMAN
Yep, no grenade abuse

DEADLINES

Deadlines
3/3
Fuel Drain when u use weapons: -30.0%
Fuel Returned when u kill something: Up to 6.0%

FIRE IN THE SKAG DEN

FireInTheSkagDen
3/5
Bonus Incendiary Damage: +9%
This affects iron bear too giving it more damage, very useful against flesh

TORGUE CROSS-PROMOTION

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4/5
+12% chance to double Splash Damage Radius
this goes very synergy with the vampyr skill allowing you to easily hit multiple targets together and reloading the iron bear armor more quickly. Most people avoid this skill for the risks you have of hitting yourself, in this build u dont have to worry about it with moze, and for the iron bear, well u just have to take some distance between u and mobs, u can do that with ease using the jump. Plus, the iron bears weapons can be very frustrating because of their low accuracy, so this skill can help u a lot

STAINLESS STEEL BEAR

StainlessSteelBear
5/5
Iron Bear Armor: +30%
Maximum Fuel: +20%
Iron Bear damage: +20%

AUTO BEAR

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1/1
Auto Bear Duration: 15 seconds
Can kill badasses too, allows u to take cover with moze

VAMPYR

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4/5
Restores +16% of missing health per enemy hit with grenades we don’t care about this
+8% for the Iron Bear with AoE damage we care about this

EXPLOSIVE PUNCTUATION

ExplosivePunctuation
5/5
Action Skill Cooldown Rate: +40% while deal splash damage best skill for the cooldown


SHIELD OF RETRIBUTION
Actually this skill tree got so many great things but i dont have points

SECURITY BEAR

SecurityBear
1/1

ARMORED INFANTRY

ArmoredInfantry
3/5
With shield active
Damage Reduction: +8.0%
Gun Damage: +9.0%
since we are going to use only the shield in this build, this skill is really something


BOTTOMLESS MAGS

MATCHED SET

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4/5
For every equipped piece that has the same manufacturer
Heat Per Shot: -9.0%
Magazine Size: +8.0%

CLOUD OF LEAD

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5/5
Every 4 shots does not consume ammo + Bonus Incendiary Damage: +11.25%

STOKE THE EMBERS

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3/3
Incendiary Damage: +30% for moze and Ironbear

REDISTRIBUTION

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1/1
Ammo Regeneration: +5% of Magazine when hit a crit
Redistribution Duration: 3 seconds

SCRAPPY

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1/5
Weapon Swap Speed: +16.0%
Mode Switch Speed: +16.0%
Handling: +10.7%
convenient since we are going to use maliwan weapons

SCORCHING RPM’S

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5/5
Fire Rate: +15.0%
Critical Hit Damage: +20.0%
Iron Bear damage: +25%

RUSHIN’ OFFENSIVE

1/1
it’s cool and convenient when u have to run away from hot situations

SPECIALIST BEAR

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1/1
Iron Bear Damage: +60% if u use the same type of weapons

THE IRON BANK

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4/5
Magazine Size: +28.0%

FORGE

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1/1
Ammo Regeneration: +5.0% of magazine/sec


for the iron bear guns i recommend the explosive miniguns for mobbing, and the vanquisher only for bosses




So at this point we should talk about the guardian ranks ability, stats and the cooldown of the iron bear.
IronBear deafult cooldown is 100 seconds
If u have cooldown bonuses on relic and classmod and a little bonus from the guardian ranks would be around 60 seconds (with lv 57 items)
NOW, there’s a guardian ranks skill called “topped off” in the green tree, with that until ur shield is fully charged the cooldown speed increases a lot


With all this things and a fully charged shield the cooldown is 26 seconds. can decrease more if u deal splash damage with the EXPLOSIVE PUNTUATION skill active, actually can be from 15 to 20 seconds with that.
YEAH 15 SECONDS FOR UR IRON BEAR
The next question is, how can i keep the shield to the maximum and how can i keep moze alive without the grenade skills?
Let’s talk about the

    GEAR

GUNS


The best choice is the kyb’s worth, electric and binary with “+1% weapon damage for every consecutive hits” anointment which I found more constant and incredibly powerful
I recommend to use different variants of kybs or at least other maliwan guns so u can benefit from the BOTTOMLESS MAGS skill.


CLASS MODS


The Blast Master is the best, u can deal 100% splash damage with moze AND ironbear , is the best way to deal more damage with the mech, but u need one with at least 3 points on VAMPYR and the actionskill cooldown bonus.
Why not the Raging Bear?
consumption decreases enormously with that one but u deal less damage, so there’s no point in that, if u have to shoot a lot more at the mobs to take the kills u will consume a lot anyway, and u dont have any VAMPYR buff.
Plus the raging bear is not a world drop, farming billy the annointed for that can cost a lot of time, especially because u need one with actionskill cooldown rate bonus


SHIELD


Transformer. the only one u can use for this specific build and the reason of no grenade abuse.
The best anointment is the +75% shield and health after exit from the ironbear for 25 seconds


RELIC


Obviously Deathless cause double of the shield capacity, u need actionskill cooldown rate bonus even there.


GRENADE MOD
it’s not important but u need the +25% weapons, ability and grenade damage bonus anointment.
Hex is good.




STRATEGY

So, there are a lot of things to say about that, make urself comfortable.

THERE WILL BE NO MORE IMAGES FROM HERE
i was joking

Since the shock damage actually recharge the transformer shield u can shoot at urself with an electric splash damage gun (binary kybs) to recharge it instantly.
Yeah u just need to shoot on ur feet , its even easier with TORGUE-CROSS PROMOTION skill and u can do it all night long thanks to the BOTTOMLESS MAGS tree. while u do this ur gonna survive at almost all the attacks from mobs (except for wotan and few others) AND u can keep active the topped off skill from the guardian ranks, actually since u deal fire damage too with the splash u have to keep shooting urself to keep the shield at max .

Unfortunately this is not considered splash damage but u can shoot at mobs too while you’re not in danger, that’s an easy way to get back in the iron bear in less than 20 seconds. Plus there is the AUTO-BEAR which will distract the mobs for the first 15 seconds.

The anointment that i recommended previously on the shield is special actually, listen well:
if u recharge ur action skill cooldown within those 25 seconds and u get into the ironbear once again, that mother ■■■■■■ get the bonus from the anointed shield = almost 100k plus armor baby, and not only for 25 second but for all the iron bear duration, not even with the mendel shield u can get that stats.

Now, if u use the transformer with the right anointment, ur shield gonna be huge too
transformer lv 57 = 21k
with deathless = 42k
with guardian rank stats u can easily reach 44/45k

with that bonus u can reach 60k of capacity, at this point should be more easy for u to keep shooting at enemies and keep urself alive until the mech is ready
shield

About the RUSH OFFENSIVE ability, u can use it to run away while u shoot urself and keep moze alive from multi damages. It’s so much useful against Wotan cause u can run from his mortar attacks without any risk, u just have to look at the mini map to know where ur going.

When ur going to shoot with moze throw a nade so u can use the +25% buff damage from the anointment. U can use it for the iron bear too but after the 6 seconds the bonus will disappear unlike the shield one.




CONCLUSIONS

-An exellent build for mobbing, u can do slaughtern shaft and 3000 with ease and fun
-It’s a bit slow to kill bosses, but for many of them u can use the zheitsev’s eruption ( for gigamind or traunt for example)
-U can do maliwan takedown, u only have to take care at the second part of the boss fight
-U can’t do TRUE maliwan takedown cause enemies deals too much damage, it’s hard even to get to wotan but u can do valkiryes
-This build got so much potential, when the level cap increases you can make it even stronger, especially by taking advantage of the red tree u could increase transformer shield capacity a lot and u could use DESPERATE MEASURES skill at the best with deathless relic, and that work for iron bear too.

BUT MOST IMPORTANT

WHERE’S MY NIPPLE SALAD?!?!?!??!?!

Interesting, cause I have 223k armor with Mendel shield.

probably if u combine both (mendel + this trick) u could reach 300k, but no more transformer strat then and u have to use grenade. btw its hard to farm mendel stopid shield…

Something about when people make this outrageous claim, then couldn’t be more wrong. :frowning:

UGH.

This is without Mendels, without 75% anoint:

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I guess you have additional health on com/artifact?

+Maxhealth on COM and Artifact and also double Adaptive on shield.

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I wouldn’t recommend shooting the ground to recharge the Transformer shield in this particular case as your build causes self harm due to passive fire damage.

Also Blast Master is trash in my opinion. Not only can you deal far more damage with a Mind Sweeper (my record on the Handsome Jack dummy on Sanctuary is almost 150M) class mod any day of the week but even if we consider non-crit builds Blast Master is still trash as it forces you all the way down the green tree as you can never reload otherwise you temporarily lose the dmg bonus making it impossible to get the most out of non-crit Iron Bear weapons at this moment.

This build doesn´t look so good…

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This build is stuck using 6 month old outdated ideas.

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Trash? Do you mean in OP’s build or absolute trash in anything. What’s wrong with being forced down the Green Tree with BM? A non crit build like a Splash build and IB’s splash weapons benefits a lot from BM. If you have issues reloading, you might be using the wrong weapon and mag size. And if you do the occasional reload, it’s not the end of the world tbh.

Dunno, BM is pretty good in a hybrid build that both uses IB and equally spents time on foot. Mindsweeper is good and all, but is to luck reliant for my taste. It also boosts skills that i don´t like much.

If you want to run IB most of the time, Raging Bear is far better than BM. Sure BM in general will have more damage because it’s easier to farm one with better stats than RB, but try running BM in Fervor M4, you won’t be able to clear mobs without doing multiple IBs. With RB, I need just 1 or 2 IBs ro clear out the first phases. IB now deals a good dmg against mobs.

My understanding of your build is more IB uptime than Moze uptime? So RB should be a better choice.

Edit: My BM has splash rolls but my RB has nothing but I am able to sustain more damage with RB when doing Proving Grounds

Mendels Med with that Anointment will have higher Armor; Just saying. The big thing here is that the Transformer provides more defense if you’re gonna be deathless. Kinda odd to be dealthles without going into red tree.

First time entering Iron Bear

After Activating Anointment

Looks like the OP got an education. :rofl:

Not surprising on reading the Moze specialists we have on here. :+1:

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Hard to agree with a blanket statement like “Blastmaster is trash”

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doing this u can keep the shield at max without problem so u can benefit from topped off skill as i said. Without doing this the cooldown could be way more longer. actually i think this is the fastest way possible to recharge IB. Btw u dont have to do this for all the 25-20 seconds since when came out from IB ur shield is already full, and the autobear attracts mobs so u just need to keep distance dealing splash damage


i dont get the problem in using the green tree, u can benefit from BM bonus and keep shooting urself for all the time u want making urself really hard to kill, works better than grenades stuff in my opinion

If you changed a few things around and used Grizzled and got some kills, then you can get IB back faster. You also wouldn’t be useless out of IB shooting yourself in a corner.

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actually i can clear entire waves in circles of slaughtern before running out of fuel, and this build is made to recharge the IB faster so there’s no problem in using multiple IB

Given the fact the build is supposed to be all about Iron Bear damage there should be Desperate Measures. However since there’s arguably nothing better for mobbing than the Hammerdown Protocol since the latest buffs you can’t go all the way down the green tree without sacrificing Desperate Measures unless you ignore the nukes.

Even then I see no reason to run Blast Masters when a combination of splash Raging Bear and Eruptions can generate A LOT more damage in terms of splash.

And when it comes to crit-based damage builds including Iron Bear nothing can even come close to a good Mind Sweeper.

That’s why I see no overall reason to even think about the Blast Master. The fact it handicaps you due to the reload buff/debuff mechanic is just another reason to forget about Blast Masters.

I tried several versions also with grizzled, but in the end I preferred to spend points on something else. Take maliwan takedown as an example, with this build is risky to seek the kill with wotan that can one shot u. but yeah grizzled works well for mobbing, as i said if I had more points for sure I would spend them on skills like that