What changes for Moze do you think GBX is working on?

Borderlands 3 Moze the Gunner
#1

Sounded like they are heavily looking into her, finally .

Let’s keep speculation realistic. At this point they wont move skill around or fundamentally change how her action skill works etc

My guess is that they will tack on added bonuses to existing skills , kind of like how they did with the big December patch . I.e like how they added IB damage increase to Scorching RPMs etc.

I want to speculate which skill will get buffed or added on to, but it sounded like they were focusing first on her survivability, which IMO is awesome

Thoughts and speculations ?

P.s : no they wont change IB so he becomes a pet or a turret just so you can more quickly proc annointments , since its obvious that is not the way GBX intended for us to use IB .

#2

I’m generally happy with Moze except for the skills that have no or little return on investment – Torgue Cross Promo, Force Feedback, and Scrappy. These need a fundamental rework.

More tweaks to BITC and WCICATG would be welcome too.

#3

I’d expect to see some splash resistance added somewhere (probably in TCP), a tweak to MoD % (and a fix to the PS4 bug), Force Feedback to change to critical hit, and maybe, perhaps, I hope, a change to allow Short-fuse to work with Iron Bear hardpoints as not a single one is of benefit to Iron Bear.

But, we shall see. I’m not getting my hopes up and I don’t want Moze to suddenly be miles ahead of the other VHs. I’d like a new puzzle to unpack.

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#4

A look at all Iron Bear hard points as 3 of them are outperforming the rest by a huge margin. Some kind of buff to the Melee hard points to make them worth actually using. Red tree tweaks to make it worth using with IB.

Hopefully we get a new skill or new skill tree soon. They did the Cap increases sooner than I thought, since they claim to not be working on new characters I’d hope we would be seeing new skills or trees soon.

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#5

Where did they mention they were working on her? I must have missed it somewhere.

I’ve got her to a decent place right now, so I’m actually going to level a new character for once. Probably Amara. Though Zane is tempting, too.

#6

Last hotfix notes

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#7

Ah, thanks. I saw they made some fixes, but didn’t realize that it was just the first part. Very cool.

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#8

I would say scrappy has a bit more use, weapon swap and mode swap are good. Adding a small reload buff would be nice. Seeing as she doesn’t have one at all.

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#9

Guess i sound like a broken record, but i think Force Feedback should be reworked to work like Axtons Quick Charge.

It would also be nice if certain artefacts and classmods work while piloting IB, sapper for example. This would let me use non splash hardpoints like miniguns without getting shredded in seconds.

Hope GB also fixes the hardpoint problem so both arms receive perk bueno bonuses.

And for the love of god and anything thats holy, i hope they fix the goddamn 20% grenade annoint. It is broken since release.

#10

Yeah. I’d love to be able to use BearNades without having to hot swap them every time. I like swapping them, but I don’t want it to be necessary. It’s also a really bad bug for Co-Op, if you’re doing long fights.

#11

I’m thinking:

  • Rushin Offensive will give extra movement speed
  • Selfless Vengeance will give more dmg boost (if not reworked)
  • IB animation will be faster or IB exit will have a force feedback and 5 second immunity
  • TCP will increase splash damage
  • Tenacious Defense health gating will be fixed, so 1 HP Moze now works with the skill
  • Scrappy will apply bonuses even when not moving
  • Security Bear now will last longer as long as Moze shoots someone. Think of it like the new FFYL GR perk. This is like Zane’s Drone shield except it can only move when Moze is piloting her bear. If she exits out, the shield is stationary obviously. Now you have a safe bunker to shoot anyone
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#12

Agree with everything you said. All these skills need more bonuses added . A no brainer is Why cant I carry all these grenades also provoke bonus grenade damage per level

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#13

Yeah, I dont want her to become Zane Easy Mode 2.0. I loved my zane until I realized there is no possible way I can make him better than he Is and neither would I want to seeing how immortal he is already . Haven’t played him in weeks.

I also COMPLETELY agree with Short Fuse working with IB . This will also allow us to use ALL his weapons to heal with Vampyre and not be forced to use only his dedicated splash weapons. Honestly I think all of mozes skills should apply to IB when applicable

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#14

I’m not huge on new skill trees tbh but I agree 100% besides explosive miniguns, rocket pods, and Sabot rounds , all of IBs other hard points and augments are not even remotely close to those 3

Someone mentioned Short Fuse applying to IB weapons . Not only will this help indirectly buff weaker weapons, but also allow them to heal IB with Vampyre . They will still need a base damage buff though. Not just the melee stuff but the nukes… extremely cool looking but so weak

Also Specialist Bear should be a flat 25% damage buff regardless of same hardpoints or not

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#15

I tried so so hard to complete a help ticket regarding the 20% grenade anointment not working with IB but 2k support wanted me to jump through so many hoops I gave up

#16

Probably just some minor changes to less popular skills like “Click, Click…” going from 12 to 15% per point invested.

If they do make a bigger change then its most likely something random nobody asked for and if it’s something people asked for then I can only see them addressing the most popular requests like a rework of Torgue Cross-Promotion or Vampyr procing on splash instead of grenade damage.

#17

All awesome , common sense and simple changes . I like it !

#18

This as well. The anoint is great except for when it doesn’t work…

I’m fine with Scrappy’s bonuses (reload speed would be a nice add), but why do they need to be contingent on whether you are in motion?

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#19

I tend to agree with the opinion that click click has no business being on the BM tree nevermind so far down where you likely have at the very least Redistribution and will likely take Forge soon anyways

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#20

If I’m being honest, besides this annointment needing to be fixed (I was the first guy to report it on here waaaaay before the IB buffs and when no one was using IB ), what I really think should happen is IB should just be able to use mozes equipped grenades. The grenade button is not used in IB anyways

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