Hey All
I’m looking to respec. Does anyone have any advice or links to builds, now that the lvl cap is 57. The less gear dependent the better as I like to be fluid with my load out.
Thanks!
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Gunboy Fl4k is a great build alot of danage works welk with rakk or fade away
Gamma burst Fl4k alot survivabilty really great with the new artifact pearl of knowledge
Personally fav built around cryo elemental
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I’d advocate a Megavore/Gamma Burst build for maximum flexibility. Almost any decent item can be made to work with it and it doesn’t demand a particular playstyle or gun type (Megavore does favor multiple pellets or high FR weapons, but you can definitely snipe with it if desired. About the only thing GB is bad at is melee). GB also offers good sustain, and if you use a Red Fang your pet will draw most of the aggro and will be effectively immortal. Makes mobbing much easier and less stressful.
It’s also not too picky about where you put your points. There are a few skills to avoid, primarily in the blue tree (the capstone, Psycho Head, and anything that buffs the pet but not you are of dubious utility), but lots of good options - especially in the red tree.
And you can swap to different COMs (Bounty Hunter or Cosmic Stalker), especially for single-target enemies with few adds, without screwing up any of the damage sources you’re relying on.
That said, my fiancé plays a Rakk build and she shreds mobs in M4 pretty effortlessly. Her build is Megavore/Power Inside.
But the Rakk build functions better with sustain and/or additional defense from gear and really wants the Rakk Pack COM specifically. A weapon with a life steal anoint is also very valuable (almost necessary IMO) for a Rakk Attack build. Yes, if you have Power Inside you presumably can have your pet revive you; but I don’t like relying on this and you don’t have GB, so your pet is more likely to die.
No comment for or against Fade Away. I just haven’t played it enough to say anything useful.
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gamma burst is objectively bad unless you happen to have only gamma annointed items
Its actually really good even without gb annoints but red fang is a must and thx to the effect its real easy to make use of alot if offensive gear like re-router without having to worry about survivabilty. Its made takedown real easy thx to my pet tanking for me.
Its really good it can put out alot of damage even after it was nerfed. It also has alot of utility with its augments like Not My Circus can give a red fang effect when you exit out of fade away. If you haven’t yet you should definitely play around with it more.
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its really not - if you pick gamma burst youre not picking the other 2
and thats plain bad
no way around it
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Thats actually very true and I can’t argue with that against since FA and Rakk can use the same build you will be limiting ur self to 1 action skill but you don’t really need more then 1 action skill and I doubt the op is gonna be switching back and forth between them. I encourage op to try it all and see what really clicks with ya.
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What do you mean by “plain bad”? Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it doesn’t work.
GB can be played successfully in any content on M4 with proper gear. And it’s great for the stage of the game where one is still trying to gather optimal end-game gear.
I may not like RA, but you will notice that I didn’t just say “RA is bad.” I tried to be clear about the advantages and drawbacks.
Just saying GB sucks isn’t helpful to anyone.
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its helpful to the person who asked
you can play whatever - that doesnt mean its a good choice based on opportunity cost
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Opportunity cost on a video game is subjective to each individual user.
Opportunity cost. OK. I see what you mean.
It might be fair to note that a GB Flak needs the right gear to solo Wotan on M4 and the kill might be slightly slower than a pure, hyper-optimized FA or RA build.
But the survival and mobbing benefits of GB are significant. And you can shred main game bosses like, say, Graveward, without a problem.
Maybe you’re right that GB isn’t hyper min-maxed. Maybe it can’t speed-run M4 True Takedown like FA or RA. But the OP wasn’t asking for THE META. The request was for a flexible build. GB fits the bill.
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Not really. If we’re looking at this in it’s totality
Gamma does the least DPS, but has by far the most survival. Even without Red fang, you get 65% DR and Burst aid for 20% healing per second. Red Fang shuts off enemy AI and gives you access to Hidden Machine and Power Inside 24/7. You can also stack offensive shields and items since you don’t need to worry about defense. As an added bonus, since your pet can’t die during GB you never have to worry about losing their bonuses, which are pretty significant boosted with BY. Finally, simply because you don’t need to take any time to dodge or look for cover, your DPS uptime is extremely high. Even if you aren’t doing as much per shot damage as other builds, you never have damage downtimes.
It is the weakest FL4K build in terms of damage, but damage isn’t the only thing that matters. Besides, all OP was looking for was
OP, despite what I posted, Rakk are definitely the most gear independent since you can anything with an ASE anointment or Rakkslag. It’s just the easiest set up to get up and running unless you have some Jakobs shotties laying around for fade away.
Master/Hunter build can easily swap action skills between GB and RA.
You also don’t need to restrict your weapons to GB anoint. You can totally use the consecutive hit anoint weapons for both GB and RA.
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I’m gonna advice Fade Away with the healing perk and unblinking eye.
Imo you can have a lot of survivability through smart positioning and staying Invisible for longer than needed. I know it’s a glass cannon kind of setup, but your survivability comes from strategic movement and keeping up your action skill usage as much as possible.
That said, it might not be the playstyle everyone likes . I feel like you need the Annointments to make Gamma Burst do enough damage and you need the right Annointments to make Rakk Attack grant you enough survivability.
Fade Away on the other hand does tons of damage on it’s own, even without the perfect Annointments. And you get the survivability from playing it the right way. Get a Brainstormer without Annointment and a Maggie without Annointment and the Build already shreds. From that point on you can slowly improve your gear piece by piece to get more damage/survivability (Annoints/Rolls).
Having fairly nice gear for a Fade Away build, I tried swapping to Gamma Burst and Rakk Attack multiple times. Finding the right gear felt difficult and I always lacked damage (Gamma Burst) vor survivability (Rakk Attack) in comparison.
Hope this helps:)
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To really maximize FA, you aren’t really gear independent though. You don’t need anointed gear per se, but you do need multi pellet weapons to really keep the cool downs low. You can use the Brainstormer and Maggie on Rakk, and then switch to a Protuberance or Ion cannon or Monocle and the build will be just as effective.
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I agree, you need specific gear, but it’s easy to get started.
Still feel that Rakk’s really squishy in comparison, maybe the playstyle is not for me.
@Bremen1 I love running cryo rakks with an icebreaker, the hydrafrost is great for those builds.
@Suckit if you don’t have gammaburst gear consecutive hit gear works better or just as well for most weapons.
How are you healing through the DOTs so easily? Is that rage and recover doing that?
Thats where all meta is going I use it with gamma and fade away as well it is too good not use.
Also how does hydrafrost compare to seventh sense? I have yet to get it and it seems interesting.
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