Trick of Light slows you during self damage

Borderlands 3 Zane the Operative
#1

Any self damage you do while specced into trick of light slows you.

Pretty terrible, hope they fix.

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#2

To quote the bullies in middle school:

Stop hitting yourself :joy:

#3

Anything triggers it even minor splash from hollowpoint.

Plus, self damage with shock weapons with transformer is a good strategy that slows you too.

#4

That self damage+Transformer also has a chance to return ammo so swings and roundabouts.

#5

I’ve found that if you fast travel, or die enough, the self-slow stops… But somehow the Transformer interaction stays indefinitely.

#6

Still a thing it seems…I made the mistake of unlocking Hollow Point and then I kept getting slowed at the worst possible moments. It also can bypass Futility Belt, to add insult to injury.
Submitted a ticket, I hope they eventually get to this one since I love that skill (no, me having a +5 ToTL Cold Warrior COM has nothing to do with this…)

#7

…I’m sorry your com is modded. And also, hollow point shouldn’t do that. But if radiated enemies blow up, that might be it.

#8

That could also be - I am using a radiation Trevonator. I think I saw it happen with other weapons too; this seems to happen even if the splash does not deal damage (e.g Alchemist/Transformer)

(I dabble with modding, so could have been me, not going to lie. Mostly to not have to re-farm everything with each level cap raise, but here and there…)

#9

S’all good, just letting you know, 3 point stats can only get a 3 point boost by com…otherwise, the would be hunting down a 5TotL myself.

#10

You are absolutely right about Hollow Point btw - I forgot I specced on Drone Delivery. If I pay attention, I am slowed down indeed by either gun splash or a hot potato at my doorstep, courtesy of the drone. I was not noticing because of Fractal Frags muddling which grenades damage me.

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#11

Drone always procs TotL too. That’s a fun fact I love. Who needs winters drone?

#12

Crazy theory; maybe the game sets Zane and the clone as an NPC for the purposes of targeting calculation, and the drone as a distinct NPC?
If this is true, it explains why Clone cannot damage Zane or proc TOTL; it is an action skill and not a “targetable” NPC, and if the clone is being targeted it counts as Zane being targeted (don´t know if it procs TOTL in co-op). As the drone has its own AI and therefore is counted as an independent target, and enemies don´t seem to target it so it´s always “on”.

#13

Clone actually can distract enemies from Zane so TotL can happen.

Interesting thing about clone is that they function in most ways as another character. A teammate. You can’t hurt them, they can’t hurt you. However, their melee damage works as a function of Zane. At least, seemingly.

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