So is the Ion Cannon the new Norfleet?

I kinda hated the Norfleet because it was so boring (just fire aimlessly and kill stuff randomly), but it was fantastic to get you out of FFYL so had a permanent spot on my quick select dpad.

Seems like the Ion cannon is a one shot kill on most enemies and its been getting me out of FFYL just as good.
Thoughts ?

It’s good for sure, but aside from boss kills, how many speed runs do you see people on slaughter shaft or takedown using it? I have seen some people use it in both, but not speed runs. There is a reason for that…

The Norfleet was made broken by absorbing rockets from it’s blast by equipping a Sham, which lead to the term Shamfleeting being born. This was extremely efficient and quick as a single shot with the Norfleet could clear a whole room of enemies. Now, if you use the ION Cannon too close to yourself, you will almost certainly drop into FFYL. Also, the gun has a long charge up time and a pretty moderate blast radius, what makes it a great gun against single targets, but really slow overall and especially for mobbing. It’s really damn strong and pretty much what a rocket launcher should be, but it is not even close to what the Norfleet was. And that’s a good thing.

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I have a corrosive one that I use to strip armor quickly, but it slows me down when doing speed clears because of the charge time.

It also requires overkill to hit the big numbers which means that missing a shot is pretty impactful.

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Yep. Even with 54 charge speed, it’s slow enough to prevent it from being a fast clearing weapon. And being on console, missing is much more frequent than pc I would imagine. I still like it, it’s still in a slot, but very situational… kind… of… like… a rocket launcher should be?

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The Scourge is a lot closer to being a Norfleet then the ION cannon is. The ION cannon is strong and great but it’s no Norfleet.

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by its ability to get You out of ffyl its very similar to nf… but much better since it is useful in many situations… even can snipe…
max damage is almost 100M… insane…


Scourge is pretty good too, for what it’s worth. Neither are perfect. But I love how strong they can be.

How the heck did you get THAT much dmg on a single rocket? My god. I’m just curious how you managed this tbh. Most i’ve seen/managed myself was around 4-5 million I think. Impressive damage tbh.

im not sure too why is value that high i used what i got to max out output
used switchitg to unforgiven with 432% crit
spritual driver with splash dmg, weapon dmg and heavy dmg, elemental projector with area of effect. shield with 300% slam
ion cannon with 100% ase x2 at first, but later switched to single because numbers are more clearly visible… actualy on that screenshot it was Twice damage…
tried several different anoitments on grenade…
its weird if i use 125% increased splash anoitment, damage number indicator is higher but it does not kill graveward wit single ion canon…
with 125 % to named, badass, dmg shown is lower but it kills graveward with very same ion canon…
math is wierd and im totaly confused how on earth damage it that high even when you add all the bonuses… max i got from single ion canon is 104M and graveward survived with abouth 1/3 health bar…