Like I see 9000 different Amara, Fl4k and Zane builds but it seems like the only builds ive seen for Moze are Tediore Chucking or just Infinite Ammo Rocket Launcher Grenade Spam.I dont really have an issue with either of those styles of play but it just seems like their is very little variety…just my opinion tho. Ive also seen some Terror builds but im not really a fan of the terror mechanic so I dont use those.
I agree but only because Vampyr is such an important skill for Moze and it’s so far down the blue tree that it really limits what build you run. But there are still a few different builds for Moze. They just aren’t going to solo the takedown.
I also think that Moze just has some bad or underwhelming skills cough Forge cough or a bunch other im too lazy to name.
Bottomless Mags is in serious need of a design overhaul, specifically the bottom half. When you can get +40% magazine size from a relic and/or +24% mag size from a class mod, you don’t need to spend 20 points on The Iron Bank. When you can get a Redline, a Torgue Quickie or your favourite heavy weapon with the anointed bonus of not consuming ammo for 5 seconds after exiting IB, you don’t need to spend 21 points on Some for the Road. When the skill tree is about ammo regen, mag size and not having to reload, and there are better DPS skills in the first 3 tiers of each skill tree, you don’t need to spend 23 points on Click, Click. And when you can spend just 6 points on Redistribution and use a COM to boost it with +1, you don’t need to blow 26 points on Forge.
It’s also as @drugfreepizza said, Moze and any other VH can come up with a variety of builds for Mayhem 4, a few of them might be able to tackle the Slaughter Shaft with no issues, but almost none of them will be able to solo Maliwan Takedown without some form of ‘cheese’ or glitching. Most solo runs I’ve seen have used the glitch with the Recursion where you intentionally pick shields and grenades that come with different elemental bonuses - this spawns multiple projectiles on guns that ricochet, and that’s why the Recursion is capable of doing insane damage to the point where Wotan can be destroyed in mere seconds after each immunity phase.
Unpopular opinion…Moze is actually the worst VH in the game, not Zane
Here is a link to some ideas I had to make her a more capable and well rounded vault hunter:. Tell me what you think and what would you add?
https://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/t/12-12-19-moze-class-updates-stary-eyed/4209565/27
I wholeheartedly agree with this. I think Zane’s in a really good place, albeit some weird skill tree design.
I think Moze needs an overhaul, while maintaining the themes of her tree.
Vampyr is her only sustain, and the green tree is a little bit lacking in damage.
There are various powerful playstyles for her, just maybe not for mayhem 4. Hopefully the new Green Monster COM will help (and hopefully it’ll apply to iron bear too)