I think it’s a win…I wouldnt use Iron Bear anyway without a complete rework. But I know others dont feel the same way.
I’d never use iron bear in the sense of actually controlling him, I’d rather like to have an option to only deploy him using the Action Skill, equipping him with the Grenade Launcher thing that make the Target vulnerable to all damage and just let him do his thing. As of right now, Iron Bear can only be in Mayham 3 for a couple of seconds until he is totally obliterated, so u effectively have no Action Skill. Which is Shi-tty.
I really do like the Grenade Build with a good Flakker, I like the idea that Moze is like the Master of Splash Damage, Explosions and Grenades… just fits her. I’d not play Moze if it wasn’t for that, if I wan’t to play most of the time with an AR/SMG/Sniper there is Zane and FL4K.
I really hope they stay with the current vibe of Moze, just love it ^^
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it’s just a hotfix, not a proper patch. Zane situation was more urgent, Moze is strong. It’s just Iron bear concept that fall short. Like flak pets that are untouched. Give it time. The testing just started cough cough
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I also have faith they’ll hit these changes over time. I think either iron bear needs to be tied to gear, like letting the bubble shield scale with moze’s shield. I think that’s how the mecromancer worked in bl2 (not to mention the absolute abysmal damage iron bear does higher level).
Fl4k needs some major updates to their pets for late game as they basically super die if you try to have them tank and they do too little damage overall. They’re basically there as a free talent point for crit damage and cute heart pets
Honestly i hope they don’t turn iron bear into a glorified pet… i like controlling the mech and would hate to see that… (maybe holding down the action skill button would just summon it as a turret?) but as the only character with a actual CONTROLLABLE action skill I’d be so bored with this game if it was just a pet/turret (That’s why i didn’t like TPS, too many pets)
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My thoughts is that any tweaks to Moze (especially Iron Bear) that they’re considering will require a bit more than the simple number adjustments that can be done with a hotfix.
Moze + HEX is obviously overshadowing the other options and there’s several ways they could address that if they decide to. Iron Bear might skate by with some Mayhem-specific number tweaks, but I feel like they need to be a bit more thorough as it seems related to vehicle scaling in general.
I think just seeing the most recent patch shows a certain level of post-launch support that wasn’t really seen in BL2, which is great overall. We all know how powerful Moze is atm, so a nerf is expected, but it’ll be better for the game in the long run.
Now if only they had pre launch support.
But I digress.
It’s just a hotfix, changes to iron bear have to be pretty thorough. inflating numbers on it won’t address the core issues with iron bear
I fear that they will reduce the heal with nade spam.
I am pretty sure they will do that and I love Moze because of this. If they kill this build then Moze is dead for me.
Well the Blastmaster and Mine sweeper version will be dead.
Bloodletter might still have a chance. I think MOD and Vampyr wont get touched…otherwise the entire tree dies.
I just hope that they don’t buff Iron Bear and in turn nerf Moze to nothing (while probably still not fixing Iron Bear lol).
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Let’s be real moze is going to get nerfed, anyone currently playing her and using any variation of nade build knows it’s coming, the question is are they going to fix bear because currently she has the only action skill that isn’t only useless but actually puts her in a worse position by using it in m3.
If they fix bear properly I’m fine with it, if they don’t/can’t I’ll swap to Amara, considering she can essentially do what I can minus the aoe with a lot more single target DPS/healing on bosses that splash damage doesn’t proc properly on.
Hex Deathless Bloodletter with Demolition and Shield combo is silly broken really.
Not only it’s insane AoE damage with unlimited grenades and ammo, it’s also literally immortal on top of that AND you don’t even need to know what you are doing, just face in the general direction where mobs are, and spam grenade button. Like… it’s even homing for twins sake.
It will be nerfed bajillion % , I bet gearbox will do something like add cooldown on Vampyr and Means of Destruction grenade proc at the very minimum to break the insane Hex synergy with these skills.