[Build] Mr Tank

Borderlands 3 Zane the Operative
#1

Hi guys,
first of all because of my Exams i cant play BL3 right now, that means I didnt test this Build.
I dont know if it is going to work like i hope.
The second thing I want to say is that English is not my first language, not even my second so forgive me if I make any mistakes.
I want to find my own Playstyle and Build and therfor I didnt really visit any Forums, except for this one today and that gave me the Idea for this build.
Since the first Trailer i knew I want Zane as my Main but it seems like he doesnt really stand out and is ,weak".
The goal of this build is to make Zane tanky. Yes he have some good DPS skills and the Double Agent Tree seems to be the way to go if you want good DPS, but Im not a fan of friendly KI since the first Borderlands. I will use the clone, but only to trigger Kill skills and as a ,oh Sh*t"-Emergency Button.
Like I said i dont know how this build will work because it depends on the Rough Rider and how it synergize with a few of the main Skills of this Build.
Here is the Build.
I want to explain why I take these Skills.

Hitman
~Violent Momentum: Im not going to make a Violent speed/Monetum + Supersonic Man build but 20% more gun Damage is fine I think
~Cool Hand: Faster reload -> higher DPS
~Salvation: Liefesteal, first skill to make us tanky.
~Death follows close: We are using Kill skills so this is a must have
~Violent Violance: Higher fire rate -> higher DPS
~Playing Dirty: with the right guns this could be great
~Seein red: well, kill skills

Undercover:
Now heres the Problem. If Adrenaline, Rise to the occasion, Confident Competence and Calm cool collected work with the Rough Rider its going to be great, if not this build will be crap.
If it works we get: Gun Damage, 5% Regen, AS Cooldown rate and AS reset.
other skills are:
~Brain freeze: for Calm, Cool Collected
~Stiff Uperlip + Futility Belt: Damage reduction +31%.

So in conclusion we will get amongst other things 31% Damage reduction, Lifesteal, 5% Health Regen and dependig on if we are full health 3% health regen on top or a reset on our AS.

My AS will be the Clone becaue of the short Cool Down. Yes I know I have no Augments for it but I just dont like the SNTNL (way to long Cooldown). The other Option would be to only have one AS until we get a higher Level cap, but I dont know if one AS will be enough to constantly trigger Seein Red. The second one will be the Shild because of the buffs it give and the short cool down. You could swap charged Relay for All-Rounder but the cool down will be longer.
After all that I have 1 Skill point left. You could put it in Sychronicity for 8% more Gun Damage if you use two AS. Or something else, your choice.

This is the build, I hope you like it. And because Im new I hope I didnt do something wrong here and offend any community guidelines. Like I said the build needs a lot of testing and I personally don`t know which guns or Relics will be good for this build.
Credit goes to every one who wrote in these Threads: about the Rough Rider and this rant here

So what do you think? even if you think this build is garbage let me know.

#2

few things

  1. rough rider does not work as you would like it to. (concerning adrenaline)
    2.while this is a solid build. salvation alone with seein red makes you immortal and together with 50% status effect duration decrease so further investing in either life steal or tankiness is pointless.
  2. transofrmer and stop gap are way more tankier since they take advantage of adrenaline and give u the needed damage boost with confident competence over specing into more damage reduction which is redundant. i get it this is a role play tank build and your skill selection is not bad at all. but the way game plays makes it redundant.
    4.violent violence is weak and does not help your tankiness, much better choice is violent speed, the more you move the less you get hit and the better the damage from the skill you already chose, which is violent momentum.

nice read btw cheers.

#3

Thanks for the fast peply and the tips.
I changed the build a little bit but still have a question.
Here is the new build. You see I have 4 Points to spent (1 will go to CCC). Is it worth to put them in Hearty stock? When I understood you correctly Seein Red+Salvation+Shield makes me tanky enough wouldnt be these 3 points in Hearty Stock be waisted? Especially when I use a Stop gap, because a bigger capacity means more time I need to fill it so the immunity will not proc that often.
But I dont see a other Option because Best served Cold looks really underwhelming.

#4

i would take futility belt since converting elemental dmg to non elemental gets you rid of being cryo slowed all the time. otherwise i would still take heartly stock, helps any other shields you might use and the more capacity the better for bosses, it is not like you need immunity time to heal back up with salvation, literally 2 seconds is all you need before you start shooting. unless you have very slow reloading guns your gap when you are vulnerable is probably 1 to 2 seconds

#5

Futility belt was my choice too, but if everything goes as planned I will have my kill skills active all the time. That means every Elemente damage I take will be convertet to normal Damage (nice), but the skill Text of a really expensive Jacket says “elemental status effects”.
So will the duration cut by half and Futility Belt will then change the Element to Kinetic. Or will the Damage be changed and really expensive Jacket will never be triggerd and will be a really expensive waste of a Point(ha!).
I hope I could explain my problem and hopefully I don’t annoy you with all the questions.