Has anyone noticed how Tassiter calls Jack "Jack" when he first addresses him at the beginning of the game, but then calls him John the rest of the time?

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Me and my brother were playing the game as the Doppelganger and the Gladiator, and he caught onto it and pointed it out to me. Because Tassiter first comes in the dialogue asking Jack what was going on, and addressed him as “Jack” but for the rest of the game he addresses him as “John” does anyone else find this weird? I didn’t really notice at first, but did anyone else notice this?

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#2

Interesting… I shall look in to this…

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#3

My guess is that he at least tried to be respectful in the beginning. After Jack insults him not much later, which likely happened more than once before, Tassiter quickly drops the act by saying “We will speak again, John”, putting a lot of emphasis on “John”.
To me this means he’s had enough of him at this point and doesn’t even bother hiding his disdain.

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#4

My first guess would be it’s likely a…a script error? And was supposed to call him John. Tassiter is very condescending and would be calling him John on purpose.

However, because he’s slightly alarmed, out of panic he could have forgotten to be condescending and thus called him Jack. I dunno.

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#5

No script error.

Tassiter knows Jack is incredibly vain and hates being called anything other than Jack (or Handsome Jack…in a Clappy DLC mission, Wilhelm just calls him “Jack” and HJ gets pissed off and says something like “You mean HANDSOME JACK!”) so yeah he is just trying to piss him off.

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#6

I always wondered why Jack got called John. Okay, Tassiter do it to piss him off, if your theory is right. But at the end of the game that lady in the dark room asks for Tassiter and Jack answers. The reaction is “John, is that you?” like she don’t even know Jack is Jack. So what if Handsome Jack is really John and Jack is a nickname, cuz, “cooler” than John?

#7

he calls him john when he’s pissed off at him.

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#8

Jack is a nickname for John, doesn’t get used a lot anymore though.

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#9

That’s weird though, because in french, both of these names have their distinct equivalent.

Jean for John and Jacques for Jack

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#10

In the American language John and Jack are virtually the same names, like Richard and Dick, both acceptable to use but as noted earlier really isn’t used much anymore. Aslo at end game when the tassiters assistant calls Jack John I believe there’s a very simple explanation. She was “The Tassiters” assistant and only reported to him, that being said it is no surprise that she only knows Jack as John considering anytime she heard his name was likely when Tassiter was probably pissed at Jack for yet another thing and was venting about it.

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#11

Jack is a nickname for John, John is the formal. Tassiter is pissed off at Jack and calls him John. Others have stated this and it is correct.

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#12

I meant to mention the “Jack is a nickname for John” thing, thanks guys.

#13

So… John Nickolson is his real name ?
John the Ripper ?
John Kirby ?
I,ve been doing Jumping Johns in PE classes ?

I knew Jack could be a familiar form for John, but I also thought that some people were named Jack.

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#14

Very interesting article here (specifically read number 4 as it deals with the Jack / John thing):

the origin of 10 common nicknames

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#15

The peasant that became a king, Handsome Jack

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#16

Well, that Jack and John thing is interesting. Never really heard of it. We only have Hans and Fritz as names here in my country of course :smirk:

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#17

@Jostabeere

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