Article trashes Moze, is it true?

I’m currently playing as Amara and I’m having a blast. I always do the Siren first. But I want to do my second play through as Moze, but I stumbled across an article that was pretty spot on on many things because I, too, felt the same way. And then when it came to Moze, it basically said that they regret picking her. Ouch.

So, I’m hoping for you Moze players to give your personal opinions. Are you having a blast?

Note: I intent to play as all of them eventually, just trying to save the least impressive for last, type of thing.

i love moze its hard for enemys to break her shields and i can deal good dmg atm 5k-10k per second Maybe a little bit more with crits and 1k-3,5k fire dot. I have 22k Shield with a good killing streak it grows up to 40-50k and fast recovery. Only iron bear is useless in true vault hunter mode and mayhem mode i only use him to recover shields in some situations…

If you want to see fun and busted late game build, check out the first 30 minutes of Bahroo’s stream from a few days ago: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/482397556

I’ve been having fun with Moze — I’m only level 25 and I’ve respecced for completely different builds twice.

Did you do it out of necessity or just experimenting?

that Looks boring :smiley:

Moze as character is strong, i love her power but Iron bear needs a legendary mod to become as good as other character’s skills.

This is my personal opinion:

Main problem is that IB has two resourcr bar, hp/armor and fuel on top a long ass cooldown. Existing and fire requires fuel; blue tree required to mitigate this. If you run out of fuel skill is over.

Armor/hp doesnt scale with enemy damage, wich means at higher lvls feels like paper bear; blue tree required to mitigate this and 1 point on red. If you run out of shield/hp skill is over.

Both situations trigers a full cooldown like 2 iirc.

I use my IB as a turret with auto bear and a way to regen shields, cooldown is only 42 seconds, less with upgrades.

Was he useless in late game? Midgame?

Doesn’t sound very fun

Experimentation based on item drops. I was originally going with a bottomless mags build based around the One Pump Chump, then I got a couple of good Torgue weapons, so I went down the Demo Woman route for a while. Now I’m trying Shield of Retribution with the Bloodletter class mod.

So you found a way for it to work for your playstyle? What I’m saying is, are you content now?

Normal game Iron bear is usefull.
only in mayhem and true vault hunter he is useless

That’s depressing tbh. I hope they’ll patch it?

I record a few minutes Gameplay for you on Mayhem 3

Is that the fastest IB moves? Or is that something you can improve in the trees?

Don’t worry about movement, IB doesnt last anyway :joy:.

Serios talk, he can double jump. Jump slide? Idk how is called. Sometimes i use It to frog jump instead of walking 🤷

I find moze fun to play, her boom boom skill tree is fun.

Well that’s good to hear lol

Get ammo based on explosive weapons and nades, increase aoe, add fire dot on explosives, get healed when nades deal dmg, all blue tree and mix It with red for extra fire dot, more shields, shield regen inside IB ( with blue tree you can summon IB then eject and leave It as a turret with 40s CD).

Basically for me IB is my inmune to dmg, shield regen turret.

Hi, just here to agree with everything else everyone already said. Moze is tough and I felt like her action skill was really good… until trying UVHM. Iron Bear just dies to quickly for me. I keep getting obliterated with half a tank of fuel still left and of course the damage doesn’t really scale either. What gets me is everyone saw it coming but the devs apparently.

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I’ll definitely be saving her for last then

FL4K from what I hear has the same problem with his summons becoming useless and Zane has a drone thing I’d imagine doesn’t scale well. So there’s three vault hunters with nearly useless action skills. For FL4K an entire tree that focuses on strengthening your summon’s damage is being called useless.

Not the most solid group of vault hunters imo I still like Moze the best so far but she does have her own disappointments. She’s still good for being tougher to kill.

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