Im using deliverance with a base cooldown of 28 seconds on Amara and have 7 points in restless for 35% cdr, a relic that gives 15% cdr, and im just short of 7% cdr from guardian ranks but for some reason my action skill takes about 21 seconds to cooldown. Is my math wrong or shouldnt it be shorter?
I believe it’s just the way the formula works. Borderlands and games like it have always had these kinds of interesting and complicated formulas where things don’t necessarily work the way they would appear to.
This is one of those times.
Looks like getting diminishing returns from each variable, so it’s not really adding up to 57% cooldown. You’re getting roughly a 25% cooldown overall. I assume what’s happening is the game takes the first variable and applies it. Then applies the second variable to the outcome from the first variable and goes on until the equation ends. This means each variable is going to give you less cooldown reduction because it’s taking from a smaller and smaller number.
I don’t know the formula, nor do I know if it’s out there yet. This is all speculation, but it’s generally what happens in most games
From your numbers you should get about 18 seconds of cooldown, but I cannot really say what is bugged here as the math doesn’t fit, not matter what I take out of the equation.
The relevant formula is this:
Base Cooldown/(1+ decimal of the bonuses) = actual Cooldown
So you should end up around this;
28 seconds/(1 + 0,35 + 0,15 + 0,07) = 17,83 seconds
Do you maybe use one of the Augments that increases the action skill cooldown? Because your actual Cooldown times 1,2 (+20% Action Skill Cooldown) would make it 21,4 seconds.
thanks for the replys and thats kinda harsh returns if its intended.
Im using the life steal augment, so i dont think that has anything to do with it.
Note that BL3 (it worked this way in BL2 as welll, the first game used flat values) uses Action Skill Cooldown Rate. It’s a subtle difference, and I can’t offer a formula, but the up-front implication is that these boosts are to how fast the skill recharges and is not a simple reduction in time-til-recharged by that percentage. It does result in some diminishing returns, and prevention of 100%CDR sorts of problems.
Looks like the 35% is the only one added and the relic and rank do not
Diminishing returns are a bitch. To get your cooldown down to 14 seconds you will need 100% Cooldown Rate bonus. Amara has a class mod for that though that gives her easily over 100%, potentially up to 250% Cooldown rate. The problem? As far as we know it’s a world drop.
@nat_zero_six this could be it.
According to the formula from BL2, a 28 second action skill with 57% cooldown reduction should be seeing an 18 second cooldown timer instead. If it is truly still hovering around 21 seconds as OP is stating, then they have changed how it is calculated.
Edit - Oops I didn’t see that this was already covered.
Or some of the modifiers are bugged and don’t give proper CDR.