Laser Disc-ussion

Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel BL: TPS Loot and Weapons Chat
#1

I want to talk about the Laser Disker :smile:

I don’t have one yet and the only info I have is second-hand, and it looks like the bee’s knees, so I want to ask a few questions about it.

What is the splash damage value ?
Does it really do more damage to flying targets ?
And if so, is the bullet damage, splash damage or both that are increased ?
Does Nisha’s trick shot affect it ?
Does it get boosted by laser-boosting skills/gear ?
Is the Maliwan grip still the best considering it has no elemental effect ?
Can you damage yourself with it if you shoot too close to a wall ?
If so, does the Sham converts it to rockets or Lasers ?

#2

The last two questions are yes!

#3

Cool

Is shooting yourself instant death ?

#4

All good questions and I will follow this thread close.

As a chunker against frozen target it is the best in the game.

The downside is the chucks sometimes bounce off or pass right through and no one has been able to pinpoint the reason why.

Most consistent for me is to aim the chuck slightly below the head. I rarely get a bad effect with this strategy.

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#5

Yeah shooting yourself is gonna hurt lots.

#6

Laser disker projectiles are considered rockets by the game, so no trickshot, I’d say. Splash damage would be the same as rocket splash, I suppose.

Yes, bulwark, Eddie etc. boost it, but I personally prefer a bomber Oz.

Maliwan grip only does 400 extra base damage at lvl 70, but. The reload speed is down to 1.7 instead of 1.4

Haven’t noticed anything about flying enemies, mainly because I only chuck it at frozen foes and never fire it on its own.

#7

works great with clappy, even without chucking - i never manage to do that - but u will kill urself a lot, mostly if someone jumps at u the moment u shoot (torks)

#8

The Aspis absorbs it though, unlike, say, the minac’s atonement, or the hard reboot

#9

I was going to say I didn’t get self-hurt from the Laser Disker but guess that’s because I was using it with Athena (my playstyle=Aspis up as soon as possible)! Came in very handy when I was at my wits end trying to solo Eclipse & Eos – little synergy with her skills (aside from stacking a bit of Maelstrom before hand) but those chucks really hurt.

So my question is: do Maelstrom stacks boost the explosive damage of the shots & the chucks? I did casual tests at the test dummies & think so but was running low on ammo money.

#10

Maelstrom boosts explosive for sure. It’s why flash freeze is worth anything, you don’t lose stacks while using your explosive weapons.

#11

I thought Flash Freeze worked like: while using the cryo gun you don’t lose stacks but switching to explosive you’d start to lose them?

#12

Flash freeze works like: You use cryo, and then you have X number of seconds where your stacks are frozen, no matter what you do during those few seconds.

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#13

What is the splash damage value ?

Haven’t seen separately displayed splash damage yet.

Does it really do more damage to flying targets ?
And if so, is the bullet damage, splash damage or both that are increased ?

Yeah, about 50-60% extra damage, but still, only 1 number pops up.

Does Nisha’s trick shot affect it ?

Nope, explodes on impact

Does it get boosted by laser-boosting skills/gear ?
Yes

Is the Maliwan grip still the best considering it has no elemental effect ?

Nope, would go for Tediore grip for quicker reloads at the cost of 400 less damage at lvl 70.

Can you damage yourself with it if you shoot too close to a wall ?
If so, does the Sham converts it to rockets or Lasers ?

yes and yes

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#14

I had compared Eddie vs Bomber on Laser Disk, Unfortunately, bomber Oz kit does not improve the gun damage, so anyone want to use it as a gun, should use Eddie. The chucking damage gets boosted by bomber Oz kit, but I am not 100% sure.

Moreover to this gun, it is actually very fun gun to use, it shoots like shotguns, but it is possible to make very long range hits. The hitting radius of the disks is quite large. (Nisha info: Hells is very good with Laser Disker)

It is also very ammo friendly even for chucking.

#15

I never shoot this gun, cause the chuck damage is ridiculously higher. And yes, bomber boosts all tediore throws.

#16

The Laser Disker may very well be the best gun in the DLC.

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#17

Ok, so I made a few tests with the one I just got. (Thanks to @BookEmDano and @akdere1 for providing me lots of stuff to fill my mad scientist lab with :stuck_out_tongue: )

First: there is no splash… or rather, there is no bullet. The whole thing is splash, like a RL. Meaning that outside of tombstone’s help, this thing cannot crit.

Like @akdere1 just mentioned, it is not boosted by Bomber Oz kit, just like RLs.

It is however, boosted by things that boost gun damage (like a tranquility Oz kit, my Sheriff COM, skills like Quick shot and so forth ) and anything that boosts laser. (I tried with a duality that boosts lasers and eddie and they both work.)

I also had problems Like @johnrr6 said with the chuck going through enemies instead of exploding on contact.

I also confirm that shots explodes on impact, so no trick shot :frowning:

And I can also say that next to the luck canon, it’s the most powerful thing I ever put in my Nisha’s hands.

I will do some more tests with it this week…maybe make a build around it :stuck_out_tongue:

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#18

Which one is it? RL or laser ammo?

#19

RL ammo.

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#20

the luck cannon says “hi”

though for non nisha’s, yea the disker is amazing. its also amazing for nisha, but less than the LC.