Wilhelm - goes full robot, gets much taller, much less powerful. Gets (possibly) poisoned by Jack and ccxsacrificed to allow the BL2 VHs to procure the trojan horse battery (when does he defeat the original VHs at New Haven…before or after TPS?)
Nisha - starts her own town, loses her broken OPness, and gets gunned down by the BL2 Vault Hunters.
Timothy - on the run, hideously in debt, unable to change his face from that of a man he undoubtedly hates.
Athena - somehow becomes so much less powerful that regular Crimson Raider (or is it Crimson Lance?) troops can capture her so she can provide exposition.
Fragtrap / Clappy - you all know his fate!
Aurelia - the only unknown. Maybe she got bored and moved on to new ultra rich pursuits.
Dialogue in the Holodome tells us that Axton captured Aurelia shortly after the Eridian “halts” Athena’s execution. Axton brings her back to Sanctuary because “a war is coming and you will need all the Vaulthunters you can find”.
And is Timothy the doppelganger killed in Opportunity?
brick and mordecai are not slouches, and would be able to put up a serious fight against athena, pptentially even defeat her. but i like to think ( keep in mind there is np evidence to support this ) that athena, ultimately allowed herself to be captured, realising that she would have to kill them in order for them to leave her alone.
as for the shadow trap, i personally believe that he didnt actually sacrifice himself but just “unleashed his energy” so to speak, within claptrap, essentially merging with claptrap. this would account for his delusions of grandeur, and the fact the he thinks he is jacks arch nemesis, despite allegedly having his memory wiped. i aldo believe the upgrade you give clappy in bl2 is essentially the fragtrap upgrade, but since claptrap was freed from hyperion control, and since i believe shadow trap merged with clappy, he didnt have the desire to use it for “evil”, let alone even understand the extent of the upgrade.
and aurelia. do they actually say they tried to kill her? i was under the impression they simply met her on eptah while vault hunting, and then got the message saying to return, and where told to bring aurelia.
lilith screwed over jack, and maimed him in an unnecessary personal vendeta, which ultimately lead to her love interest being murdered, which she blames on other people whom she then attempts to kill. f*ck her.
mordecai wallows in his own self pity after being dumped and becomes a drunk who cant get good intel or actually keep his companion safe. f*ck him
claptrap kills hundreds of people by doing what he was explicitly told not to do, and then instead of actually helping, is careless and sets a church on fire killing even more innocents. f*ck him.
i didnt feel anything when blood or roland died either, despite playing the heck out of bl1, because i saw it for what it was. a cheap attempt to make you dislike jack. and because i hate what they did rolands character in bl2
He actually is pretty much practically invulnerable at the stage in BL 2. The only thing that made him killable is the poison. Shooting laser out of his eye. A huge mortar. 2 Surveyor Drones. Ability to shoot a flare which deploys Hyperion reinforcements. No more flesh. Extremely tall. (this actually makes him more vulnerable, but it makes him scary)
The real problem is, THEY WERE ARE BALANCED AND SCALED WELL, NOOOOOO! The last time I felt this bad was when they removed Krieg’s Raving Retribution rants, but that is a sad sad story for another time…
EDIT: THEY WERE ARE ALL BALANCED (EXCEPT NISHA) AND SCALED WELL, NOOOOOO!
But it’s probably harder to capture someone than it is to kill them. Brick and Mord aren’t used to taking prisoners, they’re used to outright killing people. It was probably really hard for them to supress their instinct to outright kill an opponent, and do a good job of it, hence why they almost died.
