Tesla grenade damage mechanics test

Borderlands 2 Loot and Weapons
#1

lvl 38 rubberized tesla. due to the delivery mechanism the initial and end ‘explosion ?’ damage numbers might not have been caught by this test. (I will test other teslas in the future to clarify)

card says:
6298 ‘grenade damage’
2225 ‘electrocute damage per second’

BAR OFF

       7344   134970.406 Max    133711.000 Cur   134970.406 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        203   134970.406 Max    132451.594 Cur   133711.000 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        219   134970.406 Max    131192.188 Cur   132451.594 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        203   134970.406 Max    129932.781 Cur   131192.188 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        125   134970.406 Max    129170.508 Cur   129932.781 Prev      762.273 Damage 
         94   134970.406 Max    127911.102 Cur   129170.508 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        203   134970.406 Max    126651.695 Cur   127911.102 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
         16   134970.406 Max    125903.359 Cur   126651.695 Prev      748.336 Damage 
        203   134970.406 Max    124643.953 Cur   125903.359 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        140   134970.406 Max    123866.164 Cur   124643.953 Prev      777.789 Damage 
         63   134970.406 Max    122606.758 Cur   123866.164 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        203   134970.406 Max    121347.352 Cur   122606.758 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
         63   134970.406 Max    120602.313 Cur   121347.352 Prev      745.039 Damage 
        156   134970.406 Max    119342.906 Cur   120602.313 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        156   134970.406 Max    118604.313 Cur   119342.906 Prev      738.594 Damage 
         47   134970.406 Max    117344.906 Cur   118604.313 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        219   134970.406 Max    116085.500 Cur   117344.906 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
         78   134970.406 Max    115327.477 Cur   116085.500 Prev      758.023 Damage 
        125   134970.406 Max    114068.070 Cur   115327.477 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        203   134970.406 Max    113322.563 Cur   114068.070 Prev      745.508 Damage 
         16   134970.406 Max    112063.156 Cur   113322.563 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        203   134970.406 Max    110803.750 Cur   112063.156 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        109   134970.406 Max    110067.695 Cur   110803.750 Prev      736.055 Damage 
        109   134970.406 Max    108808.289 Cur   110067.695 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        204   134970.406 Max    107548.883 Cur   108808.289 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
         31   134970.406 Max    106789.508 Cur   107548.883 Prev      759.375 Damage 
        187   134970.406 Max    105530.102 Cur   106789.508 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        125   134970.406 Max    104785.281 Cur   105530.102 Prev      744.820 Damage 
         94   134970.406 Max    103525.875 Cur   104785.281 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        203   134970.406 Max    102266.469 Cur   103525.875 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
         31   134970.406 Max    101519.219 Cur   102266.469 Prev      747.250 Damage 
        188   134970.406 Max    100259.813 Cur   101519.219 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
         78   134970.406 Max     99672.656 Cur   100259.813 Prev      587.156 Damage 
        125   134970.406 Max     98413.250 Cur    99672.656 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        219   134970.406 Max     97153.844 Cur    98413.250 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        203   134970.406 Max     95894.438 Cur    97153.844 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        219   134970.406 Max     94635.031 Cur    95894.438 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        203   134970.406 Max     93375.625 Cur    94635.031 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        125   134970.406 Max     92620.641 Cur    93375.625 Prev      754.984 Damage 
         94   134970.406 Max     91361.234 Cur    92620.641 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        203   134970.406 Max     90101.828 Cur    91361.234 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
         15   134970.406 Max     89361.297 Cur    90101.828 Prev      740.531 Damage 
        203   134970.406 Max     88101.891 Cur    89361.297 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        141   134970.406 Max     87340.867 Cur    88101.891 Prev      761.023 Damage 
         63   134970.406 Max     86081.461 Cur    87340.867 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        218   134970.406 Max     84822.055 Cur    86081.461 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
         47   134970.406 Max     84076.258 Cur    84822.055 Prev      745.797 Damage 
        156   134970.406 Max     82816.852 Cur    84076.258 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        172   134970.406 Max     82051.500 Cur    82816.852 Prev      765.352 Damage 
         32   134970.406 Max     80792.094 Cur    82051.500 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        218   134970.406 Max     79532.688 Cur    80792.094 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
         78   134970.406 Max     78778.320 Cur    79532.688 Prev      754.367 Damage 
        125   134970.406 Max     77518.914 Cur    78778.320 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        204   134970.406 Max     76780.141 Cur    77518.914 Prev      738.773 Damage 
         15   134970.406 Max     75520.734 Cur    76780.141 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        203   134970.406 Max     74261.328 Cur    75520.734 Prev     1259.406 Damage 
        125   134970.406 Max     73495.141 Cur    74261.328 Prev      766.188 Damage 
        313   134970.406 Max     72745.188 Cur    73495.141 Prev      749.953 Damage 
        344   134970.406 Max     71975.445 Cur    72745.188 Prev      769.742 Damage 
        328   134970.406 Max     71221.977 Cur    71975.445 Prev      753.469 Damage 
        250   134970.406 Max     70639.031 Cur    71221.977 Prev      582.945 Damage

BAR ON

	   7390   134970.406 Max    133553.625 Cur   134970.406 Prev     1416.781 Damage
        219   134970.406 Max    132136.844 Cur   133553.625 Prev     1416.781 Damage
        203   134970.406 Max    130720.055 Cur   132136.844 Prev     1416.789 Damage
        219   134970.406 Max    129303.266 Cur   130720.055 Prev     1416.789 Damage
        203   134970.406 Max    127886.477 Cur   129303.266 Prev     1416.789 Damage
        125   134970.406 Max    127042.406 Cur   127886.477 Prev      844.070 Damage
         94   134970.406 Max    125625.617 Cur   127042.406 Prev     1416.789 Damage
        203   134970.406 Max    124208.828 Cur   125625.617 Prev     1416.789 Damage
         15   134970.406 Max    123378.438 Cur   124208.828 Prev      830.391 Damage
        204   134970.406 Max    121961.648 Cur   123378.438 Prev     1416.789 Damage
        140   134970.406 Max    121121.930 Cur   121961.648 Prev      839.719 Damage
         63   134970.406 Max    119705.141 Cur   121121.930 Prev     1416.789 Damage
        203   134970.406 Max    118288.352 Cur   119705.141 Prev     1416.789 Damage
         47   134970.406 Max    117465.156 Cur   118288.352 Prev      823.195 Damage
        172   134970.406 Max    116048.367 Cur   117465.156 Prev     1416.789 Damage
        171   134970.406 Max    115192.367 Cur   116048.367 Prev      856.000 Damage
         32   134970.406 Max    113775.578 Cur   115192.367 Prev     1416.789 Damage
        218   134970.406 Max    112358.789 Cur   113775.578 Prev     1416.789 Damage
         79   134970.406 Max    111513.164 Cur   112358.789 Prev      845.625 Damage
        125   134970.406 Max    110096.375 Cur   111513.164 Prev     1416.789 Damage
        203   134970.406 Max    109267.836 Cur   110096.375 Prev      828.539 Damage
         15   134970.406 Max    107851.047 Cur   109267.836 Prev     1416.789 Damage
        203   134970.406 Max    106434.258 Cur   107851.047 Prev     1416.789 Damage
        125   134970.406 Max    105578.914 Cur   106434.258 Prev      855.344 Damage
         94   134970.406 Max    104162.125 Cur   105578.914 Prev     1416.789 Damage
        203   134970.406 Max    102745.336 Cur   104162.125 Prev     1416.789 Damage
         32   134970.406 Max    101899.227 Cur   102745.336 Prev      846.109 Damage
        187   134970.406 Max    100482.438 Cur   101899.227 Prev     1416.789 Damage
        125   134970.406 Max     99654.328 Cur   100482.438 Prev      828.109 Damage
         78   134970.406 Max     98237.539 Cur    99654.328 Prev     1416.789 Damage
        219   134970.406 Max     96820.750 Cur    98237.539 Prev     1416.789 Damage
         47   134970.406 Max     95970.906 Cur    96820.750 Prev      849.844 Damage
        156   134970.406 Max     94554.117 Cur    95970.906 Prev     1416.789 Damage
        156   134970.406 Max     93721.961 Cur    94554.117 Prev      832.156 Damage
         63   134970.406 Max     92305.172 Cur    93721.961 Prev     1416.789 Damage
        203   134970.406 Max     90888.383 Cur    92305.172 Prev     1416.789 Damage
         78   134970.406 Max     90034.500 Cur    90888.383 Prev      853.883 Damage
        125   134970.406 Max     88617.711 Cur    90034.500 Prev     1416.789 Damage
        203   134970.406 Max     87782.211 Cur    88617.711 Prev      835.500 Damage
         16   134970.406 Max     86365.422 Cur    87782.211 Prev     1416.789 Damage
        203   134970.406 Max     84948.633 Cur    86365.422 Prev     1416.789 Damage
        125   134970.406 Max     84088.563 Cur    84948.633 Prev      860.070 Damage
         94   134970.406 Max     82671.773 Cur    84088.563 Prev     1416.789 Damage
        203   134970.406 Max     81254.984 Cur    82671.773 Prev     1416.789 Damage
         15   134970.406 Max     80413.305 Cur    81254.984 Prev      841.680 Damage
        204   134970.406 Max     78996.516 Cur    80413.305 Prev     1416.789 Damage
        125   134970.406 Max     78173.266 Cur    78996.516 Prev      823.250 Damage
         78   134970.406 Max     76756.477 Cur    78173.266 Prev     1416.789 Damage
        203   134970.406 Max     75339.688 Cur    76756.477 Prev     1416.789 Damage
         62   134970.406 Max     74492.281 Cur    75339.688 Prev      847.406 Damage
        157   134970.406 Max     73075.492 Cur    74492.281 Prev     1416.789 Damage
        156   134970.406 Max     72246.391 Cur    73075.492 Prev      829.102 Damage
         47   134970.406 Max     70829.602 Cur    72246.391 Prev     1416.789 Damage
        218   134970.406 Max     69412.813 Cur    70829.602 Prev     1416.789 Damage
         79   134970.406 Max     68561.852 Cur    69412.813 Prev      850.961 Damage
        125   134970.406 Max     67145.063 Cur    68561.852 Prev     1416.789 Damage
        203   134970.406 Max     66312.523 Cur    67145.063 Prev      832.539 Damage
         15   134970.406 Max     64895.734 Cur    66312.523 Prev     1416.789 Damage
        313   134970.406 Max     64041.402 Cur    64895.734 Prev      854.332 Damage
        328   134970.406 Max     63205.469 Cur    64041.402 Prev      835.934 Damage
        344   134970.406 Max     62347.824 Cur    63205.469 Prev      857.645 Damage
        312   134970.406 Max     61505.219 Cur    62347.824 Prev      842.605 Damage
        328   134970.406 Max     60680.965 Cur    61505.219 Prev      824.254 Damage
        344   134970.406 Max     59834.914 Cur    60680.965 Prev      846.051 Damage
         16   134970.406 Max     59773.938 Cur    59834.914 Prev       60.977 Damage

IMPACT DAMAGE:

The grenade lasts about ~7.5 seconds and since it impacts ~5 times per second (every)200 miliseconds that means 37 impacts.
The base impact damage = ( on card grenade damage / 5 ) * (1 + sum grenade damage bonuses) * (1 + sum electric damage bonus ) * [other multipliers …ex kunai / level diff / ] * vsSlagged * vsElement

1416.789 // this is the grenade’s periodic impact damage
(6298 / 5) * ( 1 + 0.125) = 1417.05 // the difference is from the fact the card number and the BAR grenade bonus are rounded in the UI .

The big thing is the grenade damage number on card is base damage PER SECOND but the grenade lasts ~7.5 seconds.

DOT Damage:

total inflicted DOT damage in this test was 17733.342 with BAR off and 22775.29 with BAR on

~11.8 elemental damage bonus .
Assuming the chance to apply the DOT 100%.

22775.29 / 17733.342 = 1.284 .
1.125 * 1.118 = 1.25775 .

Even with UI rounded numbers the difference is quite high , hard to say with certainty from this test that both elemental damage bonuses and grenade damage bonuses apply to grenade inflicted DOT or if there are other factors.

Still the impact damage component seems way more significant : 1416.789 * 37 = 52421.193 (BAR on); 1259.406 * 37 = 46598.022 (BAR off)

EDIT:
I will do an electric gun damage SINGLE BULLET / SINGLE DOT test to try and see the relationship between the on card DOT number and the inflicted damage numbers.

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A few findings about constructors and saturn
#2

1839.3 electric DOT per second on weapon (maliwan smg storming trance) card. Seems to hit ~ 3 times per second for ~ 2 seconds

BAR off

	   1891   134970.406 Max    127262.102 Cur   128803.766 Prev     1541.664 
        328   134970.406 Max    126636.758 Cur   127262.102 Prev      625.344 
        328   134970.406 Max    126023.625 Cur   126636.758 Prev      613.133 
        344   134970.406 Max    125394.375 Cur   126023.625 Prev      629.250 
        312   134970.406 Max    124773.219 Cur   125394.375 Prev      621.156 
        328   134970.406 Max    124165.508 Cur   124773.219 Prev      607.711 
        344   134970.406 Max    123541.750 Cur   124165.508 Prev      623.758 
         16   134970.406 Max    123504.969 Cur   123541.750 Prev       36.781

1839.3 * 2 = 3678.6
625.344 + 613.133 + 629.250 + 621.156 + 607.711 + 623.758 + 36.781 = 3757.133 … // inflicted DOT damage was > 2 * card DOT with BAR off …
(328 + 328 + 344 + 312 + 328 + 344 + 16 ) = 2000 so the DOT duration was 2 seconds SHARP !

BAR on

       1235   134970.406 Max    111261.422 Cur   113010.500 Prev     1749.078 
        312   134970.406 Max    110564.625 Cur   111261.422 Prev      696.797 
        328   134970.406 Max    109882.906 Cur   110564.625 Prev      681.719 
        344   134970.406 Max    109183.250 Cur   109882.906 Prev      699.656 
        313   134970.406 Max    108498.828 Cur   109183.250 Prev      684.422 
        343   134970.406 Max    107796.422 Cur   108498.828 Prev      702.406 
        328   134970.406 Max    107109.258 Cur   107796.422 Prev      687.164 
         16   134970.406 Max    107068.117 Cur   107109.258 Prev       41.141

4193.305 // inflicted DOT damage with BAR on.
(312 + 328 + 344 + 313 + 343 + 328 + 16) = 1984 // a hair under 2 seconds DOT duration

4193.305 / 3757.133 = 1.116 // my elemental damage BAR UI is ~118 .

#3 
jumping betty vs single target 1417 damage on card. 

	1032969   134970.406 Max    105474.234 Cur   107068.117 Prev     1593.883 Damage
        734   134970.406 Max    103880.352 Cur   105474.234 Prev     1593.883 Damage
        219   134970.406 Max    102286.469 Cur   103880.352 Prev     1593.883 Damage
        187   134970.406 Max    100692.586 Cur   102286.469 Prev     1593.883 Damage
        204   134970.406 Max     99098.703 Cur   100692.586 Prev     1593.883 Damage
        218   134970.406 Max     97504.820 Cur    99098.703 Prev     1593.883 Damage
        203   134970.406 Max     95910.938 Cur    97504.820 Prev     1593.883 Damage
        219   134970.406 Max     94317.055 Cur    95910.938 Prev     1593.883 Damage
        219   134970.406 Max     92723.172 Cur    94317.055 Prev     1593.883 Damage
        172   134970.406 Max     91129.289 Cur    92723.172 Prev     1593.883 Damage
         31   134970.406 Max     89535.406 Cur    91129.289 Prev     1593.883 Damage
        641   134970.406 Max     87941.523 Cur    89535.406 Prev     1593.883 Damage
        218   134970.406 Max     86347.641 Cur    87941.523 Prev     1593.883 Damage
        750   134970.406 Max     84753.758 Cur    86347.641 Prev     1593.883 Damage
        219   134970.406 Max     83159.875 Cur    84753.758 Prev     1593.883 Damage
        203   134970.406 Max     81565.992 Cur    83159.875 Prev     1593.883 Damage
        219   134970.406 Max     79972.109 Cur    81565.992 Prev     1593.883 Damage
        359   134970.406 Max     78378.227 Cur    79972.109 Prev     1593.883 Damage
       1157   134970.406 Max     76784.344 Cur    78378.227 Prev     1593.883 Damage
        203   134970.406 Max     75190.461 Cur    76784.344 Prev     1593.883 Damage
        203   134970.406 Max     73596.578 Cur    75190.461 Prev     1593.883 Damage
        219   134970.406 Max     72002.695 Cur    73596.578 Prev     1593.883 Damage
        203   134970.406 Max     70408.813 Cur    72002.695 Prev     1593.883 Damage

time interval seems all over the place because its chance to hit either isn’t 100% or its looking for targets on all directions or … ?
1417 * (1 + 0.125) = 1594.125 // impact damage , grenade damage bonus applies.

Hard to judge the maximum damage potential of such grenade BUT , obviously the purpose of this is the slag application not the damage.
Duration was : 7 seconds sharp.

Unlike the tesla, the damage on card was per ‘bullet’ and it can hit the same target > 20 times per cast …

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