I played the first borderlands to death and still love it, but i recently bought BL2 with all dlc and all headhunter packs.
I have looked up advice on what levels to play the dlc but i am wondering if i should leave the dlc and HH packs alone until uvhm.
Playing them on normal would surely make me horribly over leveled (i am on normal mode currently and almost to the end of Captain Scarlett and already feel untouchable in the main game)
So yeah, dlc in uvhm only? any advice would be greatly appreciated.
BL2 have enough content that yo probably wonât feel need to play DLC for some time.
But the thing is that entering TVHM enemies are up to lvl36, so if youâre below that level after you finish normal vault hunter mode then you have some room for exp to fill, so thatâs the opportunity to play some DLCs.
UVHM scales to characterâs level. But there is a problem -there is jump in stats all across boards above lvl50, which means that lvl50 gear becomes quickly outdated, so itâs strongly adviced to begin UVHM at lvl50.
[quote=âmlociks, post:4, topic:1558398, full:trueâ] itâs strongly adviced to begin UVHM at lvl50.
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Really? Iâve always been told not to start UVHM until around level 52.
When I first ran through BL2 I didnât touch the DLC until after I finished the story in UVHM. I just used side missions to get levels if I needed a few levels (finished NVHM at around level 38, and TVHM at around 53), but thatâs just me. The scaling in UVHM is where the problem lies. Youâll be farming for new gear a lot. I suggest running through the âHow Marcus Saved Mercenary Dayâ Headhunter pack as soon as you start UVHM, so you can farm Marcusâs train at the end of it (youâll have to kill the main boss every run, but you donât have to save/quit, you can fast travel out, and back in, and heâll be ready to fight again), and those will scale with you (you know, because theyâre chests) as you level up through UVHM, so youâll have a constant farming source for new gear when you need it. As far as playing the DLC in NVHM, and TVHM thatâs your call. If you need a few levels before starting the next play through then running through one, or two may be a good idea, but otherwise you should be able to get by with doing side quests for xp. Sorry if this is a little long, just trying to help you out.
Depending on which level you are when entering TVHM, the game will adjust the enemies level a little. Itâs not like in UVHM, where enemies scale to your level, but a little⌠Just to make the transition a bit more balanced.
Doing all missions in vanilla, and all dlcâs and HHâs will send you above level 40, and it will ruin your TVHM experience. It actually ruins your dlc experience in NVHM as well. Waiting until after TVHM main story is finished, is better, but not optimal. The benefits are that the enemies and missions scale to level 50, and you only level up to around level 54.ish. The downside to this is that now all your guns and gear are max level 50, and you enter UVHM at level 54. This is a brutal wake up call for many players, since even the top tier guns will start to fall behind.
If you have guns stashed away, that are on par with your level, then this is not a problem. You just use Clappyâs secret stash in Clappyâs Hideout and switch them, or you tough it out, and wait until you get to Sanctuary. If this is the first time you play UVHM, then you need to make do with what you have.
So, to sum it up⌠if this is the first time you play the game, and therefore also the first time for UVHM, then I strongly recommend that you leave the dlc material alone until you get to UVHM. You can start the dlcâs right away when you enter UVHM.
If you have access to gear at around level 54, then you can do the dlcâs in TVHM. As for NVHM⌠One or two dlcâs is OK, but youâll be a bit OP in the early stages of TVHM.
Man, that was long winded⌠I think I need a beer now!
What Ronnie said. Including the beer.
Also, I highly recommend you get proficient with slag in TVHM. The transition from True to UVHM can be jarring ( as in, itâs a lot more difficult ) and you need to slag in UVHM.
Youâve probably already seen this, but in case you havenât hereâs Vaulthunter101âs excellent new player guide.
My standard system is to play through the main game, at which point the character is at level 30 (I do a lot of side quests but not all - as a new player definitely try them out and see which ones you like!). Then I do one DLC to go from 30-35, then do TVHM taking great care to end at exactly 50 for reasons already explained.
Once you hit UVHM, you finally have some freedom to do whatever you want. Just be careful not to accept quests where youâll want the reward at level 72 (there are two such quests in the Scarlett DLC, one of which is a main story quest). You may also encounter boss fights that are too difficult to complete with less than great gear on a first character - my Maya got roadblocked by both Motor Momma and the end boss in the Hammerlock DLC on her first try in the low 50s.
So, you have room in your xp budget for one DLC before UVHM, what should it be? Sounds like youâre already deep in Scarlettâs, so this is more for optimizing future characters. If you favor Scarlett or Torgue, use those to start TVHM since in NVHM they cap at level 30. Hammerlock and Tiny Tina go to 35 in NVHM so either mode is fine for those. The two that would offer longer-term advantage would be Torgue, where you accumulate Torgue tokens you can later spend when you do the DLC again in UVHM (an easy way to get Torgue legendary weapons), or Tiny Tina. Thereâs a raid boss fight after you complete that DLC thatâs the best eridium farm in the game, so if you complete the DLC in NVHM, then come back at level 72, youâve got quick and easy eridium to finish your ammo stockpiles, etc.
I played all DLCâs after I finished all side and main quests of normal BL2 and was totally cool with everything, so after I finished main game I was about lvl 32, and after I finished all DLCâs I was about 37-40 I think. And Iâd say thatâs a good and clean start on TVHM because itâs easier in the beginning and I donât like too hard challenges ;D
Also, as people before me said, as for what to play first, Iâd go with
Scarlett and her booty, Torgue, Hammerlock and Tina
Some really great advice here, thank you so much!
I know it can be frustrating with newbs as the info is out there, but really i only found levels that they start/end, not advice like iâm getting now.
I am really grateful for you taking the time to explain stuff.
Yeah, i donât like it super hard but my problem is that the main quest is a level 15 and iâm almost at 22 and finding it boring where itâs too easy, itâs a fine line i guess.
Oh yeah, I feel you. Best type for me is 2-4 lvls higher, thatâs when I feel safe. Tho it depends on the game? And how you play. I played BL2 with a friend, I was Zer0, she was Maya and thatâs how i got through main and DLCâs and now Iâm solo Zer0 TVHM. But maybe youâre right, I do feel like itâs pretty easy now when Iâm always juust a bit too high lvl for enemies I encounter, everything is too smooth.
Last week I finished The Pre-Sequel for the first time, solo Wilhelm. And since like middle game it was just too easy. Is Wilhelm OP in Pre-Sequel? Maybe? Probably? I was always the same lvl or just one lvl higher than main quest (which in BL2 I always was like 3-5 lvls higher because of all side quests) and it was certainly harder than being the same lvl in Pre-Sequel. But maybe itâs just Wilhelm bc I played Nisha earlier and Nisha is just Extra⢠squishy and dies like a fly, especially early in the game (but itâs probably just me).
But back to the topic, maybe someone earlier was right, that you should do one/two DLC and play TVHM, since now when im on TVHM itâs juuust a bit too easy. But buying the game I didnât thought I would even play TVHM so I wasnât really thinking about my Zer0 and his future in the game ;D
Yeah, i think iâm gonna play main quest first then jump into a dlc as long as iâm around level 30-32 ish.
To be perfectly honest, i never play games on hard mode as i prefer the journey/story and i hate to die lol, but iâm ok to try all modes in BL2 ⌠i have digistruct peak also so iâm sure thatâll test me
One thing Iâve not seen mentioned is the suggested starting levels for the 4 main dlc. Capt Scarlet and Mr Torgue the suggested starting level is 15, while for Tiny Tina and Sir Hammerlock the suggested starting level is 30. As for my self Iâve only ever done the Capt Scarlet and Mr Torgue dlc in normal and the only dlc I did in TVHM was Tiny Tina, and even that was only with Axton- for all other dlc and characters I waited until I reached UVHMâŚ
