No Kill Like Overkill Mechanics?

Borderlands 2 Salvador the Gunzerker
#1

How exactly does this skill work? Its skill description is misleading in at least two ways - the skill deactivates over time whether or not it’s used, and it doesn’t appear to deactivate after the first shot fired following its activation (or at least, its active skill icon still appears).

Does it actually give its damage bonus the entire time that its skill icon is visible on screen? If so, does the damage from multiple kills stack, or does it reset the amount of its bonus each time you get a kill?

This is especially confusing given that All I Need Is One has nearly the same skill description, but actually does what it says it does (skill remains active until you fire regardless of how long that is, and deactivates as soon as you fire even if you don’t hit anything).

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#2

How so ?

Yes, it lasts for 8 seconds

No it doesn’t, it lasts 8 seconds

Yes, as long as you don’t kill again

A new kill will reactivate it with a new value

I don’t see how these descriptions are alike, and that explains your question.

AINI1 states that the next shot fired gets a bonus (which it does) That next shot can be any time…as long as it’s the next.

But nothing in the description of NKLO indicates that the bonus is on the next shot fired.
It states that you get a damage bonus based on the overkill damage from your kill.
The part that says “on the next enemy fired at” might be the one that confused you: “Next enemy” is not the same as “next shot” :slight_smile:

It’s simpler if you think of NKLO as a kill skill instead.

For once, the Wiki entry has no mistakes, check it out

#3

hey chuck, with sal (op8), is this skill a necessity? Am I missing something huge not specking into this? Thankyou.

#4

I love bus that cant slow down, but realize I’m actually wasting a lot of points going down brawn. Gonna do some serious respecing tomorrow :slight_smile:

#5

You are indeed missing out IMO But it’s not a necessity
Unless you have a specific reason to go down the Brawn tree, you should go down Gunlust low enough to get NKLO pretty much every time.

If you want increased speed while still getting NKLO, you can rely on Incite instead

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#6

thanks bro, yer that’s what I was thinking, seems silly to have only 1 tier 6 skill open, I’m seriously wasting my points.

#7

bare inmind, the playthrough is always great at op8 with my build, sal has no problems as you know killing things lol.

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#8

Well, this is a little weird. In my game, the in-game description reads: “Killing an enemy grants bonus damage to your next shot equal to the excess damage dealt to the enemy you just killed.”

Looking around on YouTube, that’s not actually how it reads on the videos that I watched - the videos I watched displayed the same description as the wiki.

And the video on this IGN Wiki page displays something similar but not identical to the description in my game: “When you kill an enemy the excess damage you dealt is added to the damage of your next shot.” You can see it at 00:24 in the video.

Anyway, thanks for answering my question, even if that also introduced a fresh mystery. :slight_smile:

#9

That video dates back to the release of the game in 2012, so maybe they changed the description not long after that.

Did you get all the updates ?

#10

Yep.

#11

That’s what it says in my game too (for what it’s worth I’m on PC with all the updates/hotfixes installed.)

I never realized it was a kind of kill skill with a duration either… I haven’t spent much time with him at all compared to the other classes though and never paid much attention, heh.