E-tech Snipers Critical Hit Guide

Borderlands 2 BL2 General Discussion
#1

There has been a lot of talk over the years of E-tech Snipers and critical hits, so I made a video to show it and break it down.

But because this is the forums I’ll also lay it out here.

  • Yes they crit
  • Yes they have the same 100% sniper bonus
  • But they also have a 100% type C penalty

So how does this look in the formula?

Gun Damage x 2 x (1 + 100% + type A critical hit bonus) x (1 + type B critical hit bonus) / (1 + 100%).

For more on that formula go here [Guide] Critical hit bonus sources (BL2 version)

Now what does that 100% type C penalty mean?

  • All of your critical hit bonuses will be cut in half.
  • It negates the sniper 100% bonus completely so this without buffs crits more like a normal pistol or smg than a sniper.

That makes these really bad on any character with a lot of crit buffs, like zer0, but not as bad on others. Although I still don’t care for them with damage vs ammo consumption.

There are also some enemies where they have been reported that the crit does not work.

  • Pyro Pete
  • Powder Monekys barrels

If there are more you know of let me know and I’ll add them.

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#2

If only these things were actually good ._.

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#3

Derch Nye the always informative guy

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#4

Of all the gun types in the game and of all the bad weapon type/Manufacturer matches, E-tech snipers are by far, the worst balanced guns in the game. It sucks because they look cool and sound great.

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#5

[quote=“Chuck80, post:4, topic:1543886”]they look cool and sound great[/quote]Agreed - I give them a +5 OP buff so I can use them in combat “normally”.

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#6

What’s even more sad is they aren’t really even good in early levels because your ammo pool is so small and the ammo cost of them is so high.

#7

Sal is really the only class that can do well with railers. He can negate the aforementioned ammo consumption problem that really holds them back.

I like the Moloko and Hybridification on Sal. Sure you’ll do better overall with normal snipers, but they are just so cool that I use them on some allegiance builds I enjoy.

#8

The 100% type c also transfers over which is really bad for sal. That would make a lady fist back down to 400% pre loothunt.

#9

Meh, I use the railers on allegiance builds, so my offhand moxxi is a slag kitten or slow-hand.

The Moloko is has a massive fire rate, burning through a big mag in a flash. If you’re on target stuff generally melts.

The Hybridification is really accurate and much much slower. Personally, the first time I split two psychos in half with one shot I was hooked.

They’re not great, just fun.