I was going through a game session tonight in the Holodome this evening when a friend made a remark that Wilhelm is not as good a character as say Athena in terms of damage. Ive gone back and looked over my equipment and stat bonuses from my COM and still feel in terms of math this shouldnt be. Id like input after I send out this information to see if the game with all the stats from the gear, perncentages are all added up that their still not right. Ok sigh, here goes and before judgement starts, yes, this is a laser build, so dont comment if all you plan to do is hack down the usefulness of lasers which I dont believe. First I have laser weapons varying in damage from 2,000 to 4,000. Next Ill jump to the COM it is a Master Blaster which buffs WTTGS and Laser Focus. 6 in the former 5 in the latter. When looked at on skill tree LF buffs those particular weapons 40%. WTTGS which its been debated with no proof either way but it does only say weapon damage so Im adding it in which adds in another 33 % weapon damage on top of that. Then you lay in the gear I have the Prismatic Bulwark adds 32.2% more, and the EDD1.E,which in turn adds even more damage with 27.7 percent. Now with the skills and equipment buffs not hving a cooldown constantly working the bonus damage output is 132.9% I do not know exact figuring when it comes to adding to the base damage of weapons to this nor the exact amounts of hp the enemies posess on uvhm specifically UBAS, Iwa, and raid boss Sentinel but I still wonder if its really accurate adding all this together or the games still broken with all these Statsā¦
Letās just put it this way. Wilhelm only gets a couple of small boosts, around 200% gun damage and some 100% crit boosts, as well as up to 150% fire rate.
Athena can get up to 750% fire rate and 500% gun damage with free ammo at the raid boss if she keeps her kill skills going.
As Wilhelm, you have to time all your offense skills very well (Apply cryo, Overcharge, Paint, Emergency Response, hit crit spot, power fist) to get close to Athenaās average damage. Then again, Wilhelmās survivability is a bit better than Ahtenaās. with my all out offense Wilhelm, it takes me about 60% longer to solo the raidboss compared to my all off Athena.
One advice for Laser Wilhelm and the Raid boss: Tediore Railguns + Terminator com + bomber oz kit. Huge base damage around 9000, mag size up to 70 with Gun Show. Even without the gunshow, Iām doing around 5 mil damage per reload on his shields, which comes very close to what you can do with IVFs.
I have a couple terminator mods no purples,and a 60 chronicler for him, just havent used them.
Wilhelm gets no love ā and heās so EASY MODE! Compare ā
Jack: hyper-OP but you have to farm for Money is Power stacks to get him there ā boring!
Athenaās crazy, too ā but you have to do that weird mechanic of switching weapons every, what 9 seconds!? No thanks.
Wilhelm pretty unobtrusive, though when those Zās get scrolling on the screen it gets disorienting. Donāt know what I specād into that gives the Zās (looks like shield/health recharge)?
OK, so it takes you a few minutes longer to finish things; sāok, quietly & efficiently done. Iāve been playing Claptrap more lately ā in prep for the Claptastic Voyage.
Gotta disagree a little.
Jack is strong because he can
A. Keep all his damage boosting kill skills going during his action skill (extra gun damage, free ammo, heals)
B. Refill the action duration gauge, so if he cancels it while itās still pretty full, itās ready within seconds
Money is Power itself gives you an additional 250% gun damage at best.
Elemental Athena builds donāt need to rely on weapon swapping. Her power comes from the up to 400% damage from maelstrom stacks, plus multiplicative boosts from rend and omega senshu
Clap is strong cause over 2400% damage from OLT on cryo.
Baroness - up to 400 % cryo damage and huge crits.
Nisha - trickshot tombstone all day.
And then thereās Wilhelm.
Yupā¦it was similar with Axton
All-around survivable character with no gimmicks per se
With less insane damage potential
Hence more of the challenge I am looking forā¦
It is why my personal taste have gravitated toward this type of character. Plus, Wilhelm had to be an ex soldier at some point and Iām partial to ex soldiers. LOL
I still feel with my specs and added damage from both the COM and equipment the figures still seem wrong. And this wasnt really about Wilhelm being better than anyone it was about the stats of my build really not showing up in game and bosses like the sentinel still giving me quite the challenge. True while Id want the challenge, I just feel with all the bonuses I should be facerolling a lot more like the rosey before it was nerfed. But with using other gear.
Indeed, I want to see what his specs, gear, look like at 70, with all the glitched weapons, a explosive laser is there now, ya we will see how it goes.
Thereās an explosive Laser? ā ā ā ā thatād be real good with a howitzer com
Itās called the Laser Disker (a Tribes: Ascend reference iirc) and made by Tediore. Iām planning to snag one for my Claptrap whenever I get a laser subroutine.
OMG YES!!!
EXACTLY WHAT I WAS HOPING FOR WOOO!!!
Legendary Laser shotgun <3
You know if people assume Jackās strength comes from āMoney is powerā. They havenāt played Jack lol
Oh I apologize for assuming you hadnāt played him CDR Shepard, sometimes I hear people think Jackās DPS comes from MiP and I canāt comprehend it lol.
Jackās fun (Very Fun!), I like Wilhelm more personally
Yeah itās definitely worth the point since whatever you do, you will be accumulating stacks.
And the Greater Good tree is amazing, is really all that needs to be said lol