Brick or Roland

I’m trying to figure out which one I wanna 2.5 Playthrough with…alot of work will be put into them of course it’s just…I don’t know which I wanna use.

Brick is already in TVHM from a past playthrough so he’ll get me there sooner. It’s just in terms of builds “Blast Master” is the only best one he has…and it’s so easy to make too you can pretty much get it done in the first playthrough.

Than there’s Roland. I haven’t started his playthrough so I need to finish the Normal game first. I have used Roland in the past and I know he’s powerful. I’m planning on using Heavy Gunner with him. Since all 3 of his trees are useful he’ll take longer to level up.

Lilith and Mordi, I just have no interest in playing them.

It’s a shame you don’t want to play Lili/Mordy - they’re easily the more powerful pair.

As is, I suggest Roland. He’s better with a higher variety of gear, and the Heavy Gunner COM is incredible fun.

I was kinda expecting people to pick him lol. Brick is stupidly powerful but he’s so limited in his skill tree cause one of them focuses on Melee (which just isn’t good in this game.) I’ll give this 2/3 more comments from different people to voice their opinions and if it’s still (go for Roland) than I’ll pick him :slight_smile:

No it’s not. Contrary to what you’ll hear from most people, PUNCHING is still strong in PT2.5. It’s harder to do, and you can’t beat Craw with a melee build, but it’s perfectly viable.

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Once you learn the wonky launcher mechanics, I had a blast playing bombadier Brick lol.

You know that there’s no TVHM in BL1 or is that what you’re calling pt2?

Sigh…

It’s just easier to call it that man. I’ve played BL2 so much it’s called TVHM/UVHM in anything I play Borderlands related.

I vote for Roland for the time being.

Alright I’m considering on playing as Mordecai. I’ve checked out his skills and thought he be pretty fun. (never played as Mordecai lol)

This is what I came up with on his skills…I don’t know if it’s good or not. I don’t plan on using Snipers (I’m simply not good with them.)
http://talent.87bazillion.com/hunter.php?500500050055555535555

My first play through was Mordecai. Revolvers are fun especially with a Gunslinger com.

That looks pretty good, but Riotous Remedy tends to be pretty lame. You only have a chance to get the maximum amount healed and I don’t know what the chances are. Turns out, healing 5% of your HP over 8 seconds half the time is pretty weak.

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I know it’s not as good but every skill isn’t gonna be gold. Since I’m not using Snipers I have to go on and pick lame skills to fill in the slots. So pretty much I have to take what I can get.

Edit- I suppose I can get “Fast Hands” but considering I’m using pistols…I don’t think I need it since their already fast at reloading.

Trust me, every point helps. Fast Hands is far better than Riotous Remedy.

Also, when it comes time to do Eridian Promontory, spec into Trespass, at least 4/5.

Roland over Brick every time, assuming you like gun battles. Have never played Brick, as not interesting in punching etc. The only other character that interests me is Mordy, and will probably play thru with him when I come back to BL - am playing other games ATM

I’m a bit late to this thread, but I figured I’d still share my thoughts if it helps. Assuming you’re not heavily invested into Mordecai already as well.

You should let the playstyle that appeals to you most determine who you pick. With the amount of class mods in the game, you can pretty much make a viable build with any weapon type on any of the 4 characters. However, each one of them has a couple skills that I’d say mold the type of playstyle they have. I’ll try to summarize all of 'em for you:

Lilith and Brick:

  • The ‘easiest’ and most aggressive playstyles in the game. Both of them have the best survivability and mobility in the game as well. Lilith is probably a bit more versatile in terms of class mods with her elemental builds and she can also make shotgun, masher or smg builds extremely effective with the Mercenary and Professional COM. Brick excels with shotguns and explosive Blast Master builds as you mentioned, but can also hold his own with Tediore mashers while using the Common Man. Punching and launcher builds are always fun, too. I’d say the only significant difference between these two is the fact that Brick will practically never die, but relies heavily on on-kill buffs to do most of his damage while bossing or killing stronger enemies. If you like playin’ extremely aggressive or up close and personal, chances are you’ll favor these two over the others. Just take a look at the skill trees and class mods to determine who you’ll like more.

Mordecai:

  • The most frail and least versatile of all the characters, but he’s capable of the highest damage per second and damage per shot in the game. A Blast Master Brick with an Ogre is technically the highest dps in the game, but I excluded that ‘cause it’s really situational and Brick has no means of ammo regen’. With Mordecai you can expect to be running one of these three builds if you want to be viable: a Gunslinger with revolvers or machine pistols, a Survivor/Ranger/Gunfighter revolver only build or a really gear dependent sniper build with either a Penetrator, Bessie or Skullmasher. Sniping isn’t very effective in this game, especially at bossing, without one of those guns. Thus I would not recommend Mordecai unless you love pistols. His playstyle is probably the most difficult to master 'cause he can easily go down, but he’s capable of dishing out extreme amounts of damage if you play evasively, patiently and can aim for the head. He’s your typical stealth based sniper/ranger character just like any other game.

Roland:

  • By far the most well-rounded and best team player in the game. If you like a lot of split screen or online play, Roland should be a no-brainer. With all of his class mods and skills, he can literally make any weapon type in the game viable. but I would say he’s most effective with shotguns, smgs and machine guns. There’s really not much else to say about Roland aside from his skill tree giving you a lot of handy perks such as ammo and grenade regen’, the ability to heal teammates and extremely high mag’ capacity. His Commando shotgun and Heavy Gunner machine gun builds shred through enemies. Running the Atlas Champion with mashers is a lot of fun, too. I’d choose Roland if you’re a team player that wants a bit of everything.

Last thing I’ll do for ya is rank them in terms of bossing Crawmerax. I’m not going to break all of the numbers down unless someone asks me to 'cause it’d be an entire thread worth of information. Just take my word for it. :wink:

  1. Lilith. Yes, Mordecai is capable of slightly faster kill times, but Lilith is a thousand times easier and that should be taken into consideration. I’m a Lilith player myself and even I’ll admit she’s way too cheap and easy.

  2. Mordecai. Kill the minions quickly or have Bloodwing daze them. Weave around the rock structures and as soon as Mordy gets Craw’s back blown out, it’s game over.

  3. Brick & Roland. I would personally put Brick at 3 and Roland at 4, but they’re so similar in this regard it could go either way. Brick will never die, but taking down Craw with him is very slow because he relies on minion kills to get his buffs up. Utilizing his speed trick (which I don’t view as cheap) is the reason I would put him above Roland. As for Roland, he’s by no means a bad bosser. He just struggles more than the others ‘cause he’s not as capable of dishing out high amounts of spike damage and has no mobility. With Roland I find grenade jumping an absolute must (which is especially nice due to his ammo regen’ and the turret can be used to distract Craw and company before they destroy it. I find using Heavy Gunner with double smgs/shotguns or an Atlas Masher with Champion his best options.

Hope some of that helped, bud. Just wanted to help people that are new to the original out. Welcome to the best game and good luck!

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I’ll add to this, Warmonger is also REALLY good for general gunplay (as good as Blast Master for non-Explosive weapons).

Roland every time in my book, he just has so much diversity compared to Brick.

Who need diversity when you have a mountain of health and damage?

:bllol:

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Obviously each to thier own, that was just my opinion.
We’re all allowed one I think.

And I’d agree wholeheartedly. I was more kidding around than, “your opinion is bad, and wrong, and makes me cry at night”.

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